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      Is this a factual statement?

      From jesusneverexisted.com:

      The cost to humanity of fifteen centuries of Christian savagery – of hundreds of millions of lives brutalised and truncated, sacrificed to war, torture, pogrom, burning, pestilence and plague – is incalculable.

      Christianity is the worst disaster in human history



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      Re: Is this a factual statement?

      Proof of "hundreds of Millions" is found where?

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      Re: Is this a factual statement?

      Quote Originally posted by Littlejoe9763 View Post
      Proof of "hundreds of Millions" is found where?

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      Notice that it doesn't just say hundreds of millions dead, but "brutalised and truncated, sacrificed to war, torture, pogrom, burning, pestilence and plague."
      I am curious how Christianity caused the plague.

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      Re: Is this a factual statement?

      Well, truncated is.... dead, sacrificed to war is.... dead, burning is.... dead, pogrom is.... dead, and pestilence and plague were normally dead...seems like dead is by and large the inference to me.

      and how do you blame pestilence and plague on Christianity?

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      Re: Is this a factual statement?

      Quote Originally posted by Littlejoe9763 View Post
      Well, truncated is.... dead, sacrificed to war is.... dead, burning is.... dead, pogrom is.... dead, and pestilence and plague were normally dead...seems like dead is by and large the inference to me.

      and how do you blame pestilence and plague on Christianity?

      LJ
      I am not the one who made the statement. One would need to prove how the Christianity caused them to perform these acts, rather than them performing these acts despite being Christian.

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      Re: Is this a factual statement?

      no this is not a factual statement because you have not actually provided evidence to support this statement

      and I noticed that your source was jesusneverexisted.com, do you yourself hold to the idea that Jesus as a historical figure never existed?

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      Quote Originally posted by SpiritualRadica View Post
      I am not the one who made the statement.
      Oh I understand you're not the one making the statement...your just the messenger though?

      One would need to prove how the Christianity caused them to perform these acts, rather than them performing these acts despite being Christian.
      Either my reading comprehension SUCKS today (which could very well be the case), or this is just unclear...either way I need you to clarify please.

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      Quote Originally posted by Littlejoe9763 View Post
      Oh I understand you're not the one making the statement...your just the messenger though?


      Either my reading comprehension SUCKS today (which could very well be the case), or this is just unclear...either way I need you to clarify please.

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      I don't think you can blame Christianity for the acts of Christians unless you can categorically prove that they did these acts because of, rather than despite, their Christian faith.

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      Ohhh! Ok...I see, and I agree with you. However, I'm not sure you can even PROVE (not you per se) that christians did all of that.
      Again, how would they (that's a better word) prove that pestilence and plague, for example, are the fault of christianity?

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      Quote Originally posted by SpiritualRadica View Post
      I don't think you can blame Christianity for the acts of Christians unless you can categorically prove that they did these acts because of, rather than despite, their Christian faith.
      Well spotted. It's a distinction many critics of Christianity fail to discern.

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      Re: Is this a factual statement?

      Well, it's definitely off base. But it's not wrong in saying that Christianity has been the cause of a great deal of horrific and utterly demonic abomination throughout history. One thing touches home particularly for me... For instance, if it weren't for my ancestors' ability to run well and hide well or if they didn't stumble upon merciful Pagans who gave them shelter and refuge, the sword of Christianity would have completely annihilated us from the surface of the earth. My people were slaughtered in the name of Christ and in the name of the church.
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      Re: Is this a factual statement?

      Quote Originally posted by SpiritualRadica View Post
      Is this a factual statement?
      Quote Originally posted by jesusneverexisted.com
      Christianity is the worst disaster in human history
      No. It's a value statement.

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      Quote Originally posted by SpiritualRadica View Post
      From jesusneverexisted.com:
      that there is enough to answer your question:

      the answer is no.
      OBJECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      The use of the posted statement is more damaging to the cause of skepticism than its allegation is to Christianity.
      "'tis usual for men to use words for ideas, and to talk instead of thinking in their reasonings." A Treatise of Human Nature, I.II.V.

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      The cost to humanity of fifteen centuries of Christian savagery – of hundreds of millions of lives brutalised and truncated, sacrificed to war, torture, pogrom, burning, pestilence and plague – is incalculable.
      ...doo-dah....doo-dah...

      Christianity is the worst disaster in human history
      ...all-d-doo-dah-day...
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