I'm amused at how big a role the White House being decorated in the rainbow flag apparently has in your mind.
I don't at all disagree that gay rights have come a long, long, long way in the last few years, to the point where there is now systemic governmental support for gay people. It's gone from gay people being legally banned from having sex, legally banned from marriage, legally banned from serving in the military, legally able to be fired from their jobs simply for being gay... to the law generally recognizing the rights of gay people. Unfortunately in a lot of states gay people can still be fired from their jobs on the grounds that they are gay.
The media, as you point out, is now generally helpful also. They moved from pretending gay people didn't exist, to portraying weird 1950s stereotypes of gay people occasionally and painting them in a negative light, to now making an effort to ensure they do actually portray gay people in approximately the rate at which they exist and that they portray them normally.
Society has moved so far, so fast, on these issues that the gay activists of 30 years ago probably wouldn't have believed it had you told them. Which is great. I am thankful that my society treats gay minority groups well, just as I am thankful that my society doesn't enslave black people. While neutral treatment, or even affirmative action, can't make up in a few short years for centuries of mistreatment of a minority group, I am very hopeful that gay people born in 20 years time will be able to live totally normal lives without ever once feeling like they are despised or hated by vast parts of society.
But your post seems a bit like "it's been two whole years since slavery was abolished, what are those blacks even complaining about anymore? They're legally protected, and the President supports them. The fact that vast swathes of the country are really angry about them having rights, is irrelevant. And the fact that they still experience huge amounts of discrimination is irrelevant." It's kind of an astonishing level of willful ignorance toward the problems of others that you're showing.
Your collated stories from around the world of every time a Christian ever felt or feared action against them due to their anti-homosexuality stance is amusing. Can the total number of actions against Christians on the issue worldwide be counted on your fingers? Probably more gay kids were kicked out of home by their Christian parents for being gay in a single US state this year than you have fingers. And uncountable Christians around the Western world are still sincerely hoping and actively trying to take away the legal right of marriage from gay people in general.
I find that while I am generally a caring "bleeding heart liberal" that I struggle to muster up much sympathy towards those who lack sympathy for others. If they insist on persecuting suffering minorities, then they are evil people who deserve whatever's coming to them.
I don't at all disagree that gay rights have come a long, long, long way in the last few years, to the point where there is now systemic governmental support for gay people. It's gone from gay people being legally banned from having sex, legally banned from marriage, legally banned from serving in the military, legally able to be fired from their jobs simply for being gay... to the law generally recognizing the rights of gay people. Unfortunately in a lot of states gay people can still be fired from their jobs on the grounds that they are gay.
The media, as you point out, is now generally helpful also. They moved from pretending gay people didn't exist, to portraying weird 1950s stereotypes of gay people occasionally and painting them in a negative light, to now making an effort to ensure they do actually portray gay people in approximately the rate at which they exist and that they portray them normally.
Society has moved so far, so fast, on these issues that the gay activists of 30 years ago probably wouldn't have believed it had you told them. Which is great. I am thankful that my society treats gay minority groups well, just as I am thankful that my society doesn't enslave black people. While neutral treatment, or even affirmative action, can't make up in a few short years for centuries of mistreatment of a minority group, I am very hopeful that gay people born in 20 years time will be able to live totally normal lives without ever once feeling like they are despised or hated by vast parts of society.
But your post seems a bit like "it's been two whole years since slavery was abolished, what are those blacks even complaining about anymore? They're legally protected, and the President supports them. The fact that vast swathes of the country are really angry about them having rights, is irrelevant. And the fact that they still experience huge amounts of discrimination is irrelevant." It's kind of an astonishing level of willful ignorance toward the problems of others that you're showing.
Your collated stories from around the world of every time a Christian ever felt or feared action against them due to their anti-homosexuality stance is amusing. Can the total number of actions against Christians on the issue worldwide be counted on your fingers? Probably more gay kids were kicked out of home by their Christian parents for being gay in a single US state this year than you have fingers. And uncountable Christians around the Western world are still sincerely hoping and actively trying to take away the legal right of marriage from gay people in general.
Once again, who cares what the Christians have to lose at all!
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