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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThere's not really widespread agreement on that topic. E.P. Sanders, for example, argues extensively that if Jesus was successfully causing bad people to stop sinning and turn their lives around, then the Pharisees would have praised him for it. He argues that Jesus must have been endorsing the acceptance of sinners into society while they were still sinners.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIf simply being a minority is in itself a significant factor then why don't we see similar health issues among various Asian-American groups?
EDIT: I started to post some pictures, but they're not for "prime time".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIf simply being a minority is in itself a significant factor then why don't we see similar health issues among various Asian-American groups?
Research shows that racial discrimination is related to illness among diverse racial and ethnic populations... [The authors of this paper] identified 62 empirical articles assessing the relation between discrimination and health among Asian Americans. The majority of articles focused on mental health problems, followed by physical and behavioral problems. Most studies find that discrimination was associated with poorer health, although the most consistent findings were for mental health problems.
Suffering any kind of discrimination or prejudice, be it about race, religion or sexual orientation, causes health problems. That's well established by hundreds, probably thousands, of studies on many different groups (62 on Asian-Americans alone). It's theoretically possible that simply belonging to a minority group is slightly stressful on average, in and of itself, even in the complete absence of discrimination, but as far as I am aware there is not solid evidence in favor of this view. But the term minority stress itself refers to "chronically high levels of stress faced by members of stigmatized minority groups"... where "stigmatized" is a key word in the definition."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe first thing that came to my mind.... "when was the last time you saw an Asian-American Pride Parade where a bunch of people marched through cities half naked, or in jock straps, wearing dog collars, and demanding respect?"
Here in NZ we have a reasonably annual "Boobs on Bikes" parade (pics also not postable) where topless men and women ride motorbikes through the major cities. Not sure if that tells us anything meaningful or deep about heterosexuality and the failings of the heterosexual psyche...?
Gay pride parades by their nature don't represent the silent majority of gay people who stay at home minding their own business, and who are probably doing tremendously out-there things like eating dinner or watching TV."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostWell the Irish having a St Patrick's parade and getting utterly drunk and disorderly comes to mind. I was just listening to a Turkish-American commentator who was talking about gay pride parades and he compared them favorably to some Turkish pride parades he'd been to.
Here in NZ we have a reasonably annual "Boobs on Bikes" parade (pics also not postable) where topless men and women ride motorbikes through the major cities. Not sure if that tells us anything meaningful or deep about heterosexuality and the failings of the heterosexual psyche...?
Gay pride parades by their nature don't represent the silent majority of gay people who stay at home minding their own business, and who are probably doing tremendously out-there things like eating dinner or watching TV.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostRacial Discrimination and Health Among Asian Americans:
Research shows that racial discrimination is related to illness among diverse racial and ethnic populations... [The authors of this paper] identified 62 empirical articles assessing the relation between discrimination and health among Asian Americans. The majority of articles focused on mental health problems, followed by physical and behavioral problems. Most studies find that discrimination was associated with poorer health, although the most consistent findings were for mental health problems.
Suffering any kind of discrimination or prejudice, be it about race, religion or sexual orientation, causes health problems. That's well established by hundreds, probably thousands, of studies on many different groups (62 on Asian-Americans alone). It's theoretically possible that simply belonging to a minority group is slightly stressful on average, in and of itself, even in the complete absence of discrimination, but as far as I am aware there is not solid evidence in favor of this view. But the term minority stress itself refers to "chronically high levels of stress faced by members of stigmatized minority groups"... where "stigmatized" is a key word in the definition.
And what do we make of the fact that "Despite having lower income and education levels, U.S. Hispanics tend to outlive non-Hispanic whites by several years"? According to the National Center for Health Statistics, non-Hispanic Whites live on average to 78.8 years old while Hispanics live for an average of 81.2 years.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Meanwhile, while we can close our eyes and pretend really hard that this is all about "stress" from discrimination, that would necessitate ignoring sources such as the CDC....
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostOther contributing factors are not within our control to change.
Naturally, it's SILLY to just suggest that sex be done the way God intended it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou mean like how the Pharisees were singing his praises for healing people -- at a time that illness was often thought to be associated with sin?
As an aside, Sanders also heavily emphasizes tax collection as a sin that Jesus did not require repentance from, and it seems to me that that plays heavily into his hypothesis that Jesus did not require repentance before forgiveness. In first century Israel, most Jews believed that tax collecting for Rome was a sin against Israel, but it seems to me that Jesus wasn't nearly so myopic.
At anyrate, Bruce Chilton does a decent job in dismantling a lot of Sanders' views on this, pointing out that it would be very strange for a follower of John the Baptist, whose primary message was repentance, to ignore that theme altogether. He also points out that Sanders' view only really works if one ignores much of the scriptural evidence that Jesus did preach repentance. Wright also breaks down Sanders view in Jesus and the Victory of God, while agreeing with Sanders that Jesus did not teach repentance "in the normal sense" (that is, in the sense that 2nd temple Jews would have expected), but disagreeing that it was not a focus of his preaching.Last edited by Adrift; 06-30-2016, 11:46 AM.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAh, so don't even try... I mean - you claim there's a problem, but we shouldn't actually "work the problem", we should just get everybody to accept it as "normal".
Typical liberal social experimentation.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostI'm not sure what liberals, specifically, have to do with this....The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAnd yet Asian Americans enjoy the longest life expectancy of any racial or ethnic group (87.3 years) in the U.S. today.
And what do we make of the fact that "Despite having lower income and education levels, U.S. Hispanics tend to outlive non-Hispanic whites by several years"? According to the National Center for Health Statistics, non-Hispanic Whites live on average to 78.8 years old while Hispanics live for an average of 81.2 years.
On the other hand, Hispanic teenagers typically aren't disowned by their parents for being of Hispanic descent, since, you know...the parents are also of Hispanic descent.Last edited by fm93; 06-30-2016, 03:13 PM.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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And anyhow, as usual, there are two issues worth considering:
1. Those risk factors are greatly reduced for gay couples who use protection, and are entirely eliminated for monogamous gay couples.
2. Those risk factors don't exist for women who have sex with women.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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