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  • #16
    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    and yet if your lives were in danger the first people you would call would be the police, the very ones you keep castigating.
    I sure would think twice or maybe three times about calling the police if I lived in America. Your police seem totally out of control.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      I sure would think twice or maybe three times about calling the police if I lived in America. Your police seem totally out of control.
      According to our media. They thrive on stories that attract ratings. The everyday routine of a cop wouldn't fit the bill.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        I sure would think twice or maybe three times about calling the police if I lived in America. Your police seem totally out of control.
        Yeah, cause we're hearing about homeowners getting shot by the thousands!

        Starlight, sometimes you can sound like an intelligent guy, other times you sound like a major goofus. Police have MILLIONS of interactions per year with the citizenry with no ill effect whatsoever.

        In fact, in the communities where the police have "eased up", violence has grown, and people are getting killed.

        Source: NYPost

        FBI Director James Comey has again drawn the wrath of the White House for calling attention to the rising violence in urban areas. Homicides increased 9 percent in the largest 63 cities in the first quarter of 2016; nonfatal shootings were up 21 percent, according to a Major Cities Chiefs Association survey.

        Those increases come on top of last year’s 17 percent rise in homicides in the 56 biggest US cities, with 10 heavily black cities showing murder spikes above 60 percent.

        “There’s a perception,” Comey said during a May 11 news conference, “that police are less likely to do the marginal additional policing that suppresses crime — the getting out of your car at 2 in the morning and saying to a group of guys, ‘What are you doing here?’ ”

        The reaction to Comey’s heresy was swift. White House spokesman Josh Earnest immediately accused the FBI director of being “irresponsible and ultimately counterproductive” by drawing “conclusions based on anecdotal evidence.”

        But the evidence is not looking good for those who dismiss the so-called “Ferguson effect,” from the president on down. A study published this year in the Journal of Criminal Justice found that homicides in the 12 months after the Michael Brown shooting rose significantly in cities with large black populations and already high rates of violence, which is precisely what the Ferguson effect would predict.

        A study of gun violence in Baltimore by crime analyst Jeff Asher showed an inverse correlation with proactive drug arrests: When Baltimore cops virtually stopped making drug arrests last year after the rioting that followed the death of Freddie Gray while in police custody, shootings soared. In Chicago, where pedestrian stops have fallen nearly 90 percent, homicides this year are up 60 percent compared with the same period last year.

        Compared with the first four-and-a-half months of 2014, homicides in Chicago are up 95 percent, according to the police department. Even the liberal website Vox has grudgingly concluded that “the Ferguson effect theory is narrowly correct, at least in some cities.”

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        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          I sure would think twice or maybe three times about calling the police if I lived in America. Your police seem totally out of control.
          all you know is what you read in the news. News by its nature generally only reports dramatic and negative stories about police (and most other things.)

          If all you knew about planes was from reading the news, you would be thinking that flying was a death sentence.

          I have never had a bad experience with the police and neither have most Americans, other than criminals of course. They have always been respectful and helpful. I did once get a traffic ticket that I thought was unfair, but even then the officer was respectful to me. And I have shown them respect and compliance with their instructions.

          and I have had a LOT of contact with police because of my job (legal field) and family (brother is a cop)

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          • #20
            I think I had been stopped by the police a total of four times. Let me see: once for a broken taillight; once for expired tags, and once I don't recall the reason for. The fourth incident was the only time I ever saw the cops uptight - no light over the license plate. I had to explain I had trouble accessing the light from the trunk and demonstrated my issues to him. They let me off with a warning to get the problem fixed. Which I did, and avoided driving at night until I did.
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            • #21
              My favorite traffic stop was one day when I had ended my shift, and had actually called "out of service" and was heading home. I stopped by a convenience store to buy a half gallon of ice cream to take home. When I got back to my car, dispatch called me on the radio and asked if I could work another 4 hours, because they had two persons call in sick for the upcoming shift.

              I wasn't close enough to go home, so I pulled back onto the highway, and watched for a driver driving nicely. I pulled them over, identified myself, and asked where they were going. The woman looked a bit surprised, and said, "I was just on my way home, officer, what did I do?" I said, you're fine, ma'am - you didn't do anything wrong -- please wait one minute.....

              I walked back to my patrol car, got the ice cream, and told her I had to work another shift and didn't want the ice cream to melt. Then I went back to work, leaving her in apparent shock.

              It was fun!
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                I have never had a bad experience with the police
                I suspect that probably owes a lot to the color of your skin. From what I can tell, US cops in general tend to treat white people a lot better than they do tend to treat black people.
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                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  I suspect that probably owes a lot to the color of your skin. From what I can tell, US cops in general tend to treat white people a lot better than they do tend to treat black people.
                  I think, more correctly, US cops tend to treat cooperative people a lot better than they do uncooperative people.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    I sure would think twice or maybe three times about calling the police if I lived in America. Your police seem totally out of control.
                    If you're armed, you wouldn't need to. Oh wait, but that wouldn't work for you. Guess you're pretty much screwed.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      I suspect that probably owes a lot to the color of your skin. From what I can tell, US cops in general tend to treat white people a lot better than they do tend to treat black people.
                      BS. have you ever watched the show COPS? they seem to equally stop whites as any other race. criminals are criminals no matter what color they are. but I would say in general, white people tend to treat the police a lot better than black people. but you dont care about that.

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                      • #26
                        The drone bombing comparison is silly. The robot wasn't used to blow up a wedding party in Yemen. It was used on an active shooter who had already shot twelve people and was threatening to take out more and refused any negotiation. It would have been irresponsible not to act in such a manner and almost certainly would have resulted in more deaths. And more importantly, they knew exactly where the robot was going and there was no possibility of a false positive for who the target would be (as opposed to the situation with drone strikes).
                        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                          The drone bombing comparison is silly. The robot wasn't used to blow up a wedding party in Yemen. It was used on an active shooter who had already shot twelve people and was threatening to take out more and refused any negotiation. It would have been irresponsible not to act in such a manner and almost certainly would have resulted in more deaths. And more importantly, they knew exactly where the robot was going and there was no possibility of a false positive for who the target would be (as opposed to the situation with drone strikes).
                          Look up the definition of "precedent" and "comparison," then get back to me.
                          Last edited by seanD; 07-09-2016, 09:11 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            I suspect that probably owes a lot to the color of your skin. From what I can tell, US cops in general tend to treat white people a lot better than they do tend to treat black people.
                            Several studies show that if you're white you are far more likely to be shot and killed in a confrontation with police. There are many theories as to why this is so.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              BS. have you ever watched the show COPS? they seem to equally stop whites as any other race. criminals are criminals no matter what color they are. but I would say in general, white people tend to treat the police a lot better than black people. but you dont care about that.
                              Why do you think white people tend to treat the police a lot better than black people?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                                Why do you think white people tend to treat the police a lot better than black people?
                                Ah, here we go again... "they've been mistreated, so it's perfectly OK if they don't cooperate at a traffic stop".

                                THREE TIMES last month, we had blacks jump out of their vehicles during a traffic stop and approach the officer yelling "Come on, shoot me!" One of them was particularly aggressive and added the "MF" repeatedly. My son-in-law was only going to give him a warning for not completely stopping at a stop sign.

                                Heck, even after all the drama, the guy only got a verbal warning.
                                Last edited by Cow Poke; 07-10-2016, 06:54 AM.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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