Insidious "revivals"

[Kelp]

http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2008/05...a-revival.htmlhttp://teampyro.blogspot.com/2008/05...a-revival.html

Cool. Yeah, Brownsville is tangentially connected to this as they are both part of the larger Vineyard Movement AFAICT.

It has quite a few problems of it's own, but it's not specifically what this thread is about.

[Sparko]

All believers are indwelt by the Holy Spirit. But there are many rooms in a house.
The light bulb in your room has no darkness in it, but the closet is really dark inside, until someone turns on the light.

well thanks for the fortune cookie Ty, but how about some scripture?

I don't know about you but all of my "rooms" are filled with the Holy Spirit. A demon can't stay in the house of God.

[Kelp]

Dang. I'm staying away from those guys.

Does Church of God count as Pentecostal? I've heard they're affiliated.

I believe so. So is Assemblies of God.

But again, I stress. Not all Pentecostalism is bad by any means.

[JardinPrayer]

My hairdresser owns the salon and is an elder in our church...everyone goes to him. We were talking about Lakeland the other day while I was getting terrific new highlights done (I'm even more gorgeous than before, if you can stand to think about that). He said he was part of the Brownsville revival in Pensacola. He said he went nine times and was forever changed by the experience. He described "soaking in the presence of God," and how the Holy Spirit's heaviness in the room was palpable. He also said that was not a healing revival...rather one centered on repentance. I guess I don't really understand exactly what "revival" is supposed to mean. Is it just a whole bunch of people feeling the strong presence (or manifestation) of God at the same time? Does the bible speak of revival in any manner similar to this? Heck, I've been to some wonderful solomn assemblies where I felt a strong presence of God and felt changed during 2 hours of corporate prayer...but I didn't feel the need to call "revival!"

[Sparko]

IMO "revival" is one of those Cristianese jargon words that means "Let's have a big church party and see if we can get people excited about God again"

[Kelp]

I see a true revival as being the sort of thing Ezra, Josiah, etc. effected. "If My people who are called by My name...". it's a restoration, a turning back, a bearing again of fruit. Hence the term, revival.

These are no revivals that bring false doctrine with them, that's for sure.

[Flipper31]

Hi,

I think what I find odd are Todd Bentley's tattoos...he didn't have them in his days in ministry prior to 2005 when he went through a "dark night of the soul" and emerged with tatoos and piercings....a big no-no according to Leviticus 19:28.

[Kelp]

Well, I would debate whether that passage actually condemns tats and piercings.

My issue with Bentley is mainly his association with the Manifest Sons of God bull and the people who promote it claiming to be prophets (who are actually false prophets).

[Amazing Rando]

I see televangelists casting demons out of believers all the time on TBN.

Sparko watches TBN!

[Sparko]

Sparko watches TBN!

just for laughs.

I also like to watch late night infomercials and make fun of the products. I about fell out of my chair when I first saw the infomercial for the "flobee" vacuum hair cutter.

[Flipper31]

Kelp,

Granted....but his teachings are strange as well. He claims that he visited Paul in heaven and Paul allegedly told him that Abraham co-wrote the Book of Hebrews with Paul.

Never heard that one before....

[JardinPrayer]

Flipper, what is your source for these claims, please? I'm interested in reading for myself.

[Flipper31]

JardinPrayer

http://phillyflash.wordpress.com/200...da-outpouring/

There are other links in the article..

[Chaotic Void]

I believe so. So is Assemblies of God.

Alrighty.

But again, I stress. Not all Pentecostalism is bad by any means.

Indeed. My new pastor is far from "Heretic" or "Bad".

[Meta Knight]

Flipper, what is your source for these claims, please? I'm interested in reading for myself.

I saw the claim myself in a link from the link you gave me, but I can't find it right now.