Insidious "revivals"

[TyRockwell]

You are ignorant and deceived.

[TyRockwell]

God is not a circus performer, Ty. He doesn't do tricks for show.

God heals, but you'll never know it.

[Sparko]

You are ignorant and deceived.

No. you are.

[Raphael]

We're not talking about 1 or two people Ty. We're talking about 70 000 people and it was visible up to 40 kilometres away.

And I think you're forgetting Ty, I'm someone who believes that God does supernaturally heal. My own sister went from being crippled (and was going to be put into leg irons) to being able to walk with no problems in seconds.

That doesn't change the fact that I've also seen many "healing ministries" which are completely bogus. Where people claim to be healed, but hours later after the adrenalin has worn off they have the same old problems they had before hand.

[JonLanceBarker]

You are ignorant and deceived.

You are a :fruitcake: .

[Sparko]

I too have witnessed miraculous healing. My dad had a stroke and the doctors thought he would be a vegetable, but he recovered, stopped drinking, became a christian and changed totally.

But it didnt happen on a stage in a glorified circus show. It happened through quiet prayer by the elders of my mom's church and friends and family.

[TyRockwell]

I too have witnessed miraculous healing. My dad had a stroke and the doctors thought he would be a vegetable, but he recovered, stopped drinking, became a christian and changed totally.

But it didnt happen on a stage in a glorified circus show. It happened through quiet prayer by the elders of my mom's church and friends and family.

It does not have to be the way YOU saw it to be true. You can't put God into your box and say He only does things this way. You would have called the feeding of the 5 thousand a fraud. You would say that God would never use someone like John the Baptist.

The people who are healed are happy to be healed, whether you think it was a 'circus' or not.

You ought to be happy for them. Instead you are acting like the Pharisees.

[TyRockwell]

You're missing my point.

The encounters these gentlemen are talking about are almost identical to what a Spiritualist medium would describe when dealing with their spirit guide.

They do NOT line up to Biblical accounts of encounters with angels.

I would therefore say that if these men are not lying about their encounters, that they are being deceived by a demonic spirit. the same way a Medium is deceived by their spirit guide.

God does the real, Satan the counterfeit. You've got it backwards.

[TyRockwell]

Wow...I just posted peace and apology for getting on Ty's back and he responds with back to back posts telling me about my anger management problem.


...and, he called me "dude."


I forgive you, Ty.

Calm down, dudess. I forgive you.

[nomad]

Wow...I just posted peace and apology for getting on Ty's back and he responds with back to back posts telling me about my anger management problem.


...and, he called me "dude."

for some reason, i had to go listen to cake's 'building a religion' after reading this post.

[Raphael]

It does not have to be the way YOU saw it to be true. You can't put God into your box and say He only does things this way. You would have called the feeding of the 5 thousand a fraud. You would say that God would never use someone like John the Baptist.

The people who are healed are happy to be healed, whether you think it was a 'circus' or not.

You ought to be happy for them. Instead you are acting like the Pharisees.

Ty, I don't think the "angelic" familiars are from God. I think the man is either lying or he is being deceived by a demon.

You still haven't answered me properly with regards to Fatima

[TyRockwell]

Ty, I don't think the "angelic" familiars are from God. I think the man is either lying or he is being deceived by a demon.

You still haven't answered me properly with regards to Fatima

Fat Mama was not broadcast LIVE around the world. I SAW what the Holy Spirit was and IS doing at Lakeland, FL.

God sent Gabriel to Daniel at least twice, then gave him a really long message from the Angel of the Lord. Then two more angels in chapter 12. Who can deny that God uses angels?

You still ignore the healed people, who are all Praising and giving Glory to God, and Thanking JESUS for touching them! Judge with right judgment not with your doctrinal, "God wouldn't" rules. God likes to challenge the thinking of the smug know-it-alls.

It is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit to ascribe what He is doing to the demonic. All other sins will be forgiven...

[JardinPrayer]

Ty, you keep telling US to calm down, but I implore you to take a look at your posts here and your choices of phrasing. You hurl accusation, assign blame, judge, and ascribe sin to us. Then, you say YOU forgive us for these things, like you're God. I forgave you for your specific behavior toward me personally...I would never presume to have the right to forgive you for blasphemy or sin!

I am not on auto-pilot. I do not claim God does not heal. I have been in the charismatic church for 10 years...utterly submitted to the process of finding truth, wherever it would be found. I have come out of a decade of searching, praying, and trying to immerse myself in these practices...I would hardly call that auto-pilot. I could call that discernment.

Now, I am looking at hours of Lakeland video, both live and previously recorded, genuinely WANTING to see a healing miracle (just one would be enough) that has the mark of God on it. Sadly, that is not what I see. Understand, brother, I'm watching with my heart's desire being to have my doubts removed.

I have no doubts about the power of God in any of His persons and I am utterly confident that God and I do okay with dealing with this issue during our time together in prayer. So, please don't tell me I'm blaspheming against the Holy Spirit when He is not telling me that.

Has it ever occurred to you that there is a possibility you are misled and caught up in hyperbole? Has it ever occurred to you that there are millions of Christians who don't choose this route of worship and belief that are still Heaven-bound and blood-washed? Judge not, lest ye be judged.

I am trying to peacefully co-exist with you on this board regardless of our disagreement. I am sharing my personal response to something I am witnessing. You are free to see it another way, but I certainly do not expect to be jeered at for my position.

[JardinPrayer]

BTW, here's a real miracle!

[YoungOne]

Ok-I have read through all the post thread. First, I wonder how many people besides Ty have watched the the revivals? Personally, I have and I do believe true things of God are happening. However, with the real always comes the devil trying to get the counterfeits inside. So I agree with should keep our guards up. Second, God does use broken people lets not be quick to judge people even if their is mistakes or false doctrine in their past. God can and does use people. I don't think anybody will disagree with this. Last thing is I don't think we really understand functions of angels and how they work with us. At least, I don't so I am going to leave that subject alone. P.s. The morning services scripture is refer to much more than the evening ones.