Thread: A Psalm of JPH
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May 14th 2008, 05:25 PM #16
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I got something else for them to whine about. Your web site is under selected Apologetics in Why I'm a Christian. So much for 'loosing' your credibility, eh?
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May 14th 2008, 07:29 PM #17
Re: A Psalm of JPH
Excellent lament, JPH.
Gets the point across, too. And Theostudent... uhhh... whatever precisely that was, it looked like a pretty good one.
This, however, is a psalm:
By whose word was the earth crafted,
And by whose wisdom were the heavens plotted?
Who speaks to command the lightning,
And who sits in judgment above the nations?
Who is this Lord of glory?--
Tell me if you know!
By whose breath are the hosts of men scattered,
And whose wrath cleaves the land in twain?
Who humbles the proud to Sheol beneath,
And who exalts the oppressed to sit on thrones?
Who is this King of glory?--
Tell me if you know!
By whose faithfulness do the righteous walk,
And by whose mercy do sinners learn piety?
Who shatters the cedars of Lebanon,
And who makes the barren mountains as Eden?
Who is this God of glory?--
Tell me if you know!
I will proclaim before my people,
I will speak of his good name.
YHWH is he, YHWH the God of Hosts,
YHWH the merciful, YHWH my Redeemer.
YHWH is the Lord of the earth,
He knows every river and every hill;
At his name the mountains quiver
And the waters churn in awe.
The gods of the nations are but worthless idols
And unclean spirits who only deceive,
But YHWH is the God of Gods,
And before him the idols will melt away;
The deceivers will fall silent
In the day of the wrath of YHWH.
YHWH sits enthroned between the cherubim,
The praises of the sons of men are his lofty throne.
It is YHWH, and none other, who rescues from the pit;
YHWH is he who judges the wicked.
It is YHWH, and none other, who redeems from Sheol;
YHWH alone makes the tombs give birth.
None can stand before the Holy One's gaze,
For he is exalted above men and angels,
And heaven and earth give heed when he speaks.
The voice of YHWH is mighty,
The voice of YHWH wakes the dead;
The voice of YHWH is majestic,
The voice of YHWH hushes the seas.
The voice of YHWH strikes as lightning,
The voice of YHWH kindles the flames.
YHWH is the God of heaven,
And in his hands are the paths of the stars;
The sun gives not its light unless he permits,
Nor the earth bring forth the herbs of the field.
The sons of men bow low before him,
And Sheol's maw is for those who defy his holiness.
Cherubim and seraphim recite his works,
And the mountains are small in his sight.
Who is the Lord Most High,
And whose scepter dashes the nations?
This Lord, this King, this God of glory--
YHWH is his name.
I found a hobby a couple weeks back...
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May 14th 2008, 07:31 PM #18
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May 14th 2008, 07:33 PM #19
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May 14th 2008, 08:40 PM #20
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The River of Fire
The Way Into the Kingdom of Heaven
Distinguishing Truth & Error
Apologetics for Orthodoxy
Ochlophobic Musings 
"I would join countless numbers of evangelical Protestants and say I have come to know Christ with fulfilling and life-changing effects and daily witness His grace and leadership in my life. But just because God in His grace and mercy has met us where we are and adapted Himself to our unique cultural and religious circumstances in no way means He has abandoned His original plan. God does not contradict Himself. Truth is intolerant, and truth is found in the Church’s living and Holy Tradition. It is my growing conviction that only a strong living Tradition can protect us from the corrosive and destructive forces of modern life, the insidious and deceptive effects of modern pluralism, and the disheartening and confusing proliferation of religious opinions...What are we to do with this "cloud of witnesses," this Holy Tradition through which they live and speak with such clarity and certitude? Well, for me there seems to be only one logical response. I must turn to the Church and its sacred Tradition; I must listen humbly and be instructed. I cannot let God’s marvelous blessings of the past blind me to what I have missed or deter me from that to which He would lead me still. I must return home to Orthodoxy." Rev. Dorraine S. Snogren, The Road That Leads Home
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May 14th 2008, 09:46 PM #21
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May 14th 2008, 09:49 PM #22
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May 14th 2008, 09:49 PM #23
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Originally posted by Batman
The River of Fire
The Way Into the Kingdom of Heaven
Distinguishing Truth & Error
Apologetics for Orthodoxy
Ochlophobic Musings 
"I would join countless numbers of evangelical Protestants and say I have come to know Christ with fulfilling and life-changing effects and daily witness His grace and leadership in my life. But just because God in His grace and mercy has met us where we are and adapted Himself to our unique cultural and religious circumstances in no way means He has abandoned His original plan. God does not contradict Himself. Truth is intolerant, and truth is found in the Church’s living and Holy Tradition. It is my growing conviction that only a strong living Tradition can protect us from the corrosive and destructive forces of modern life, the insidious and deceptive effects of modern pluralism, and the disheartening and confusing proliferation of religious opinions...What are we to do with this "cloud of witnesses," this Holy Tradition through which they live and speak with such clarity and certitude? Well, for me there seems to be only one logical response. I must turn to the Church and its sacred Tradition; I must listen humbly and be instructed. I cannot let God’s marvelous blessings of the past blind me to what I have missed or deter me from that to which He would lead me still. I must return home to Orthodoxy." Rev. Dorraine S. Snogren, The Road That Leads Home
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May 14th 2008, 09:49 PM #24
Re: A Psalm of JPH
The River of Fire
The Way Into the Kingdom of Heaven
Distinguishing Truth & Error
Apologetics for Orthodoxy
Ochlophobic Musings 
"I would join countless numbers of evangelical Protestants and say I have come to know Christ with fulfilling and life-changing effects and daily witness His grace and leadership in my life. But just because God in His grace and mercy has met us where we are and adapted Himself to our unique cultural and religious circumstances in no way means He has abandoned His original plan. God does not contradict Himself. Truth is intolerant, and truth is found in the Church’s living and Holy Tradition. It is my growing conviction that only a strong living Tradition can protect us from the corrosive and destructive forces of modern life, the insidious and deceptive effects of modern pluralism, and the disheartening and confusing proliferation of religious opinions...What are we to do with this "cloud of witnesses," this Holy Tradition through which they live and speak with such clarity and certitude? Well, for me there seems to be only one logical response. I must turn to the Church and its sacred Tradition; I must listen humbly and be instructed. I cannot let God’s marvelous blessings of the past blind me to what I have missed or deter me from that to which He would lead me still. I must return home to Orthodoxy." Rev. Dorraine S. Snogren, The Road That Leads Home
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May 14th 2008, 10:11 PM #25
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May 14th 2008, 10:13 PM #26
Re: A Psalm of JPH
Of course it requires an answer. A joke always does. Either in the form of a laugh, an Amen, or another joke. Or if it's a bad one: a groan, a boo, or an actually good joke (usually at the expense of the bad joker).Originally posted by Theostudent
And it was a joke, so it really did not require an answer.
Last edited by TolkienFan; May 14th 2008 at 10:19 PM.
"I wish the ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened."
"So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you were also meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought."
-Frodo and Gandalf the Grey in Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
"Whoever saves one life, saves the world entire."
-The Talmud, quoted in Schindler's List
"Many folk like to know beforehand what is to be set on the table; but those who have labored to prepare the feast like to keep their secret; for wonder makes the words of praise louder."
Gandalf the White in Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
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May 14th 2008, 11:16 PM #27
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In all honesty, I saw the phrase so much repeatedly about time passing that it reminded me more of the BOM.
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May 15th 2008, 06:47 AM #28
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http://www.tektoonics.com
Due to rampant stupidity by Skeptics, and time issues, I'm only going to be on TWeb in my own (tektonics.org) section from now on. Deal with it.
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May 15th 2008, 09:21 AM #29
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I see the whiners have discovered this tribute to their methodology.

That's fine. I'm sure the 31 million people who have left the church will appreciate it:
We obviously need MORE skateboard demonstrations and more coddling of atheists! Get your John Loftus Doll (TM) today!
'Lost' Christians Greatest Crisis in American Church, says Author
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Katherine T. Phan
Christian Post Reporter
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PORTLAND, Ore. - The inability of the church to discuss a topic that has become taboo among many Christians is one of the root causes why millions of Americans are leaving the church and never to return, says one author.
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* Churches Saving the Wrong 'Lost,' Says Youth Leader
* Survey: Reasons Why Young Adults Quit Church
There are "Christians who have experientially lost their faith" but have no one to turn to since church culture shuns the topic, David Sanford said Thursday.
It's not that these Christians lost their salvation, but that they have lost their faith in the Bible, the church and Christian beliefs, said the author, who was addressing attendants at the annual convention of the Evangelical Press Association in Portland, Ore.
Over 31 million Americans are part of this exodus from the church, Sanford said, citing a Barna Group study.
"Any business that is losing 31 million customers is going out of business," he told a room of Christian journalists and editors. "[It] is the greatest crisis among Christians today in the U.S., Canada and some parts of Europe…We must break the silence in our publications.”
In his upcoming book, If God Disappears: 9 Faith Wreckers and What to Do About Them, Sanford details nine reasons he uncovered through listening to stories of those who exited the church on why Christians abandon faith.
Most of the time, Christians leave because of a "wounded" experience. They either deliberately walk away due to questions and doubts that go unanswered or they feel that God has walked away or "disappeared," observed Sanford.
The author noted that he too "experientially" lost his faith a few years back when he encountered a series of unfortunate news, including his daughter being diagnosed with endometriosis – a condition that affects the womb.
"I felt God was pounding and pounding and pounding on me," he said.
Although Sanford at the time was serving in multiple Christian positions – vice president of Publishing and Internet Ministries for the Luis Palau Evangelistic Association and a member of Evangelical Press Association – he said his faith was discouraged to a point where he couldn't even say a prayer before a meal.
But looking back at his situation, Sanford said he realized that God used the crisis in his faith as a "hinge" to re-work his wrong theology and allowed his faith to be more vibrant than before.
He has since applied his experience to his ministry where he comes alongside those who have experientially lost their faith and walks beside them in their journey.
Speaking from experience, he believes Christians who return back to the faith can become a phenomenal force to revitalize churches.
"When you come back, you come back for good. You come back with a passion" and reach out to others who have left the church, he said.
In an effort to raise awareness on why many leave the Christian faith, Sanford called on the Christian media to help put this understated issue before churches.
"Otherwise at EPA in three or four more years, it's going to be 37 million."
If God Disappears is slated for release in the fall.
I wonder whether any of the whiners would be willing to put their money where their mouth is and show that they really care. I'm trying to fund my next book project, and as those who read my books attest, they're 100% riposte free.
Think any of the whiners will step to the plate during the drive?
Nah....I'd have to be riding a skateboard or using the Way of Disaster method to squeeze that buffalo out of them.
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Due to rampant stupidity by Skeptics, and time issues, I'm only going to be on TWeb in my own (tektonics.org) section from now on. Deal with it.
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May 15th 2008, 10:11 AM #30
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a Psalm of Sparko the Pirate:
Bandanas are red, oceans are blue
Give me your treasure, or I'll run you through.
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