They Are Going After The Churches:

[JimL]

Free will.

Okay, but that is not what you said, you said that the reason we get things wrong is because of original sin, now you are saying it is because of free will. But really it is neither, we get things wrong because we don't know everything. So free will really has nthing to do with it, we can get things wrong whether we come to that wrong conclusion via conscious free will or unconscious determination.

[Tassman]

That is just stupid Tass, if we are determined by the antecedent laws of nature then nature and nature alone created us to be religious. Created us to massively misunderstand. So what has nature deceived you about?

We are a part of nature, not outside of it. Nature does not act on us, we interact with it.

As for religion, it is a natural response to our evolved instincts of altruism, mutual reciprocation and empathy...qualities that run deep in the biological make-up of all social species.

[Tassman]

Free will.

Please explain where this “free-will” comes from. Does a chimpanzee have it when he’s choosing a banana off a tree, or is it just the human animal who is able to freely choose his fruit at breakfast? Why is this?

How does your libertarian free-will override the sub-conscious influences which you've accumulated over a life-time of cultural socialisation, personal experience and the myriad of factors that comprise us as thinking, social beings and of which you're not fully aware?