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June 17th 2008, 06:58 PM #16
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
The River of Fire
The Way Into the Kingdom of Heaven
Distinguishing Truth & Error
Apologetics for Orthodoxy
Ochlophobic Musings 
"I would join countless numbers of evangelical Protestants and say I have come to know Christ with fulfilling and life-changing effects and daily witness His grace and leadership in my life. But just because God in His grace and mercy has met us where we are and adapted Himself to our unique cultural and religious circumstances in no way means He has abandoned His original plan. God does not contradict Himself. Truth is intolerant, and truth is found in the Church’s living and Holy Tradition. It is my growing conviction that only a strong living Tradition can protect us from the corrosive and destructive forces of modern life, the insidious and deceptive effects of modern pluralism, and the disheartening and confusing proliferation of religious opinions...What are we to do with this "cloud of witnesses," this Holy Tradition through which they live and speak with such clarity and certitude? Well, for me there seems to be only one logical response. I must turn to the Church and its sacred Tradition; I must listen humbly and be instructed. I cannot let God’s marvelous blessings of the past blind me to what I have missed or deter me from that to which He would lead me still. I must return home to Orthodoxy." Rev. Dorraine S. Snogren, The Road That Leads Home
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June 17th 2008, 07:54 PM #17
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
What the Arminian wants to do is to arouse man's activity: what we want to do is to kill it once for all - to show him that he is lost and ruined, and that his activities are not now at all equal to the work of conversion; that he must look upward. They seek to make the man stand up: we seek to bring him down, and make him feel that there he lies in the hand of God, and that his business is to submit himself to God, and cry aloud, 'Lord, save, or we perish.' We hold that man is never so near grace as when he begins to feel he can do nothing at all. When he says, 'I can pray, I can believe, I can do this, and I can do the other,' marks of self-sufficiency and arrogance are on his brow.
-C. H. Spurgeon
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June 17th 2008, 07:55 PM #18
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
I know, I know... "Why you gotta hate on Osteen"?
What the Arminian wants to do is to arouse man's activity: what we want to do is to kill it once for all - to show him that he is lost and ruined, and that his activities are not now at all equal to the work of conversion; that he must look upward. They seek to make the man stand up: we seek to bring him down, and make him feel that there he lies in the hand of God, and that his business is to submit himself to God, and cry aloud, 'Lord, save, or we perish.' We hold that man is never so near grace as when he begins to feel he can do nothing at all. When he says, 'I can pray, I can believe, I can do this, and I can do the other,' marks of self-sufficiency and arrogance are on his brow.
-C. H. Spurgeon
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June 17th 2008, 07:56 PM #19
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
The River of Fire
The Way Into the Kingdom of Heaven
Distinguishing Truth & Error
Apologetics for Orthodoxy
Ochlophobic Musings 
"I would join countless numbers of evangelical Protestants and say I have come to know Christ with fulfilling and life-changing effects and daily witness His grace and leadership in my life. But just because God in His grace and mercy has met us where we are and adapted Himself to our unique cultural and religious circumstances in no way means He has abandoned His original plan. God does not contradict Himself. Truth is intolerant, and truth is found in the Church’s living and Holy Tradition. It is my growing conviction that only a strong living Tradition can protect us from the corrosive and destructive forces of modern life, the insidious and deceptive effects of modern pluralism, and the disheartening and confusing proliferation of religious opinions...What are we to do with this "cloud of witnesses," this Holy Tradition through which they live and speak with such clarity and certitude? Well, for me there seems to be only one logical response. I must turn to the Church and its sacred Tradition; I must listen humbly and be instructed. I cannot let God’s marvelous blessings of the past blind me to what I have missed or deter me from that to which He would lead me still. I must return home to Orthodoxy." Rev. Dorraine S. Snogren, The Road That Leads Home
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June 17th 2008, 08:46 PM #20
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
I think a Mills & Boon book would be better than one by Osteen
"If you can ever make any major religion look absolutely ludicrous, chances are you haven't understood it"
-Ravi Zacharias, The New Age: A foreign bird with a local walk
Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
1 Corinthians 16:13
"...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
-Ben Witherington III
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June 17th 2008, 08:49 PM #21
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
What the Arminian wants to do is to arouse man's activity: what we want to do is to kill it once for all - to show him that he is lost and ruined, and that his activities are not now at all equal to the work of conversion; that he must look upward. They seek to make the man stand up: we seek to bring him down, and make him feel that there he lies in the hand of God, and that his business is to submit himself to God, and cry aloud, 'Lord, save, or we perish.' We hold that man is never so near grace as when he begins to feel he can do nothing at all. When he says, 'I can pray, I can believe, I can do this, and I can do the other,' marks of self-sufficiency and arrogance are on his brow.
-C. H. Spurgeon
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June 17th 2008, 10:12 PM #22
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
Trilogy by Francis Schaeffer
Jesus in Beijing by David Aitken
Pilgrim's Progress by John Bunyan
The Brother's Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky
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June 17th 2008, 10:20 PM #23
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
I might as well actually give my real answer to the question.
Darcy's Story by Janet Aylmer -Pride & Prejudice through the eyes of Mr. Darcy (Yeah, I know I'm a dude, I majored in Eng. Lit.)
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
I'm also a fan of The Wheel of Time series by Jordan.
Desiring God by John PiperWhat the Arminian wants to do is to arouse man's activity: what we want to do is to kill it once for all - to show him that he is lost and ruined, and that his activities are not now at all equal to the work of conversion; that he must look upward. They seek to make the man stand up: we seek to bring him down, and make him feel that there he lies in the hand of God, and that his business is to submit himself to God, and cry aloud, 'Lord, save, or we perish.' We hold that man is never so near grace as when he begins to feel he can do nothing at all. When he says, 'I can pray, I can believe, I can do this, and I can do the other,' marks of self-sufficiency and arrogance are on his brow.
-C. H. Spurgeon
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June 17th 2008, 10:25 PM #24
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
Originally posted by 5Pointer
The River of Fire
The Way Into the Kingdom of Heaven
Distinguishing Truth & Error
Apologetics for Orthodoxy
Ochlophobic Musings 
"I would join countless numbers of evangelical Protestants and say I have come to know Christ with fulfilling and life-changing effects and daily witness His grace and leadership in my life. But just because God in His grace and mercy has met us where we are and adapted Himself to our unique cultural and religious circumstances in no way means He has abandoned His original plan. God does not contradict Himself. Truth is intolerant, and truth is found in the Church’s living and Holy Tradition. It is my growing conviction that only a strong living Tradition can protect us from the corrosive and destructive forces of modern life, the insidious and deceptive effects of modern pluralism, and the disheartening and confusing proliferation of religious opinions...What are we to do with this "cloud of witnesses," this Holy Tradition through which they live and speak with such clarity and certitude? Well, for me there seems to be only one logical response. I must turn to the Church and its sacred Tradition; I must listen humbly and be instructed. I cannot let God’s marvelous blessings of the past blind me to what I have missed or deter me from that to which He would lead me still. I must return home to Orthodoxy." Rev. Dorraine S. Snogren, The Road That Leads Home
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June 18th 2008, 02:22 PM #25
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health by L. Ron Hubbard
go on, you know you want to ;)"Mostly harmless" -Douglas Adam's on the earth.
"Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much." Oscar Wilde
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June 18th 2008, 02:40 PM #26
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
The River of Fire
The Way Into the Kingdom of Heaven
Distinguishing Truth & Error
Apologetics for Orthodoxy
Ochlophobic Musings 
"I would join countless numbers of evangelical Protestants and say I have come to know Christ with fulfilling and life-changing effects and daily witness His grace and leadership in my life. But just because God in His grace and mercy has met us where we are and adapted Himself to our unique cultural and religious circumstances in no way means He has abandoned His original plan. God does not contradict Himself. Truth is intolerant, and truth is found in the Church’s living and Holy Tradition. It is my growing conviction that only a strong living Tradition can protect us from the corrosive and destructive forces of modern life, the insidious and deceptive effects of modern pluralism, and the disheartening and confusing proliferation of religious opinions...What are we to do with this "cloud of witnesses," this Holy Tradition through which they live and speak with such clarity and certitude? Well, for me there seems to be only one logical response. I must turn to the Church and its sacred Tradition; I must listen humbly and be instructed. I cannot let God’s marvelous blessings of the past blind me to what I have missed or deter me from that to which He would lead me still. I must return home to Orthodoxy." Rev. Dorraine S. Snogren, The Road That Leads Home
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June 18th 2008, 03:37 PM #27
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
I don't know why you're laughing.
What the Arminian wants to do is to arouse man's activity: what we want to do is to kill it once for all - to show him that he is lost and ruined, and that his activities are not now at all equal to the work of conversion; that he must look upward. They seek to make the man stand up: we seek to bring him down, and make him feel that there he lies in the hand of God, and that his business is to submit himself to God, and cry aloud, 'Lord, save, or we perish.' We hold that man is never so near grace as when he begins to feel he can do nothing at all. When he says, 'I can pray, I can believe, I can do this, and I can do the other,' marks of self-sufficiency and arrogance are on his brow.
-C. H. Spurgeon
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June 18th 2008, 10:28 PM #28
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
The River of Fire
The Way Into the Kingdom of Heaven
Distinguishing Truth & Error
Apologetics for Orthodoxy
Ochlophobic Musings 
"I would join countless numbers of evangelical Protestants and say I have come to know Christ with fulfilling and life-changing effects and daily witness His grace and leadership in my life. But just because God in His grace and mercy has met us where we are and adapted Himself to our unique cultural and religious circumstances in no way means He has abandoned His original plan. God does not contradict Himself. Truth is intolerant, and truth is found in the Church’s living and Holy Tradition. It is my growing conviction that only a strong living Tradition can protect us from the corrosive and destructive forces of modern life, the insidious and deceptive effects of modern pluralism, and the disheartening and confusing proliferation of religious opinions...What are we to do with this "cloud of witnesses," this Holy Tradition through which they live and speak with such clarity and certitude? Well, for me there seems to be only one logical response. I must turn to the Church and its sacred Tradition; I must listen humbly and be instructed. I cannot let God’s marvelous blessings of the past blind me to what I have missed or deter me from that to which He would lead me still. I must return home to Orthodoxy." Rev. Dorraine S. Snogren, The Road That Leads Home
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June 19th 2008, 07:52 AM #29
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
I love the Wheel of Time series, it was one of the first to get me into fantasy. The world building is amazing, the characters likeable and all in all, it's on of my favourite fantasy epics ever. However, IMO, it doesn't have quite the same level of sophistication as the series by Erikson and Martin. They are the next level up in terms of literary quality. I wouldn't hesitate for a second in recommending WoT to someone. It's just that Erikson and Martin are superior. Plus they don't have descriptions of Nynaeve pulling her braid every other paragraph.
"To see a world in a grain of sand,
And a heaven in a wild flower
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour"
William Blake
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June 19th 2008, 01:48 PM #30
Re: Can anyone reccomend me some good books?
In relation to this, also check out Glen Cook's Black Company series.
A Game of Thrones - I said possibly above as this series is it's main competitor. They are actually rather different, with far less magic in this classic work by George R R Martin. I'm unsure as to which series I prefer. They are both stunning and again a must for anyone interested in fantasy.
I'll have to check this out.Perdido Street Station - still fantasy though a long way removed from the usual perceptions of the genre. Set in a vaguely Victorian world and one of the best examples of the new wave of fantasy writers who are moving away from the cliches (not that there haven't been writers over the years who have done this).
I'd also recommend Katherine Kurtz's Deryni novels - which are an iteresting mix of magic and Catholicism, and Sword at Sunset by Rosemary Sutcliffe - dark Arthurian fantasy
Science Fiction
Hyperion - a genuine modern classic. Highly imaginitive, beautifully written and chock full of references to poetry (the title comes from a Keats poem), the classics and whatnot. Buy it.
Revelation Space - hard Sci Fi at its hardest (well, not quite, there's always Greg Egan and his mind bending quantum stuff). Relatively sparse characterisations (though by no means bad), making way for a wonderful and imaginitive realisation of the future.
to both
Another one I'll have to check out.The Reality Dysfunction - mammoth Sci Fi. Really imaginitive example of "Space Opera", certainly of the best of this type (and recent Sci Fi in general). Not quite as heavy on the science as some. Has a very well concieved universe, with a lot of detail. In North America the first book comes in two parts (Emergence and Expansion) - I recommend getting hold of the original, where it's all in one. Shouldn't be hard.
In Science Fiction, I'd also recommend C J Cherryh's Foreigner novels, exploring contact with alien civilizations.
Non-fiction:
From Dawn to Decadence: 1500 to the Present: 500 Years of Western Cultural Life by Jaques Barzun. This is the sort of stuff that typically gets relegated to occasional sidebars in standard history texts.
Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond - essentially a history of the non-Western world, and an exploration of why the West won.
An Incomplete Education by Judy Jones and William Wilson
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