Thread: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
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June 18th 2008, 10:01 AM #46
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
If I were at a bible study and you started screaming at me that I was a demon, I would probably jump back and scramble to my car as fast as possible too, Ty.
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June 18th 2008, 10:18 AM #47
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
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June 18th 2008, 10:41 AM #48
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
The one exception I take to the OP is to the presupposition inherent in the term "in these last days".
If the rest of the OP is true, then in all likelihood many, many more generations will yet come and go before the Body of Christ attains the goal set forth in Ephesians 4:13.
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June 18th 2008, 01:29 PM #49
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
Nochyu mokraya ptitsa nikogda ne letaet.
A wet bird never flies at night. -unknown [old Russian proverb]
Eudyptes: you are....as usual....100% correct
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June 18th 2008, 03:40 PM #50
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
Hey Dee Dee, here is the article: http://www.theorangecountynews.com/n..._page/003.html
"If you can ever make any major religion look absolutely ludicrous, chances are you haven't understood it"
-Ravi Zacharias, The New Age: A foreign bird with a local walk
Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
1 Corinthians 16:13
"...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
-Ben Witherington III
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June 18th 2008, 05:07 PM #51
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
I don't know what presupposition you suppose, a priori.

I know the term is lifted from Hebrews 1:2, and could be thought by some to be only an indicator 'near' in time to the writer. It is not uncommon that the term is used for the current days we live in (and this is a supposition I know), in the way people mean "the time of the end."
The "time of the end" is lifted from Daniel 12:4. Of course, many assume we are living in the time of the end, and I don't see that as an error. I probably would disagree with their suppositions concerning what is to happen next. That is because in many scenarios there is not much role for the Church to play in the meantime. 'Just get as many saved as you can' is the main idea most Christians have about these uh, end times.
If that is all they plan on doing, then it will likely be longer than it need be to attain Eph. 4:13
My point is that we should be more focused on attaining that goal, and the reason is not only that we need to come into that maturity, but that there are other things as well that we ought to be growing up in, such as correct knowledge of the word of God. This, and the unity of the faith can and will come about with a more Spirit-filled, Spirit taught understanding of living by faith.
When we get there, it won't take long to get the Church's mission accomplished.
Last edited by TyRockwell; June 18th 2008 at 05:35 PM.
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June 18th 2008, 05:14 PM #52
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
He kinda looks like Doc from Back to the Future.
If there is anything I’ve learned from both conservatives and liberals, it’s that we can have all the “right” answers and still be mean. And when you’re mean, it’s hard for people to listen to, much less desire, your truth.
-Shane Claiborne
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June 18th 2008, 05:17 PM #53
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
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June 18th 2008, 05:23 PM #54
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
I forgive you, Amazing Rando. Good game last night, though. Yea! Celtics! (Rando is the name of a Boston player, for those with Sports Attention Deficit Disorder. SADD)
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June 18th 2008, 05:26 PM #55
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
Sorry mate, no offense intended. I was just trying for a smile.
If there is anything I’ve learned from both conservatives and liberals, it’s that we can have all the “right” answers and still be mean. And when you’re mean, it’s hard for people to listen to, much less desire, your truth.
-Shane Claiborne
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June 18th 2008, 05:32 PM #56
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
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June 19th 2008, 09:38 AM #57
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
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June 19th 2008, 09:45 AM #58
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
I thought this thread wasn't about Lakeland...
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June 19th 2008, 09:49 AM #59
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
everything is about Lakeland to Ty. he started this thread because he was getting his butt whooped in the "insidious revival" thread.
Proud Member of Da Blonde's Axis of Evil, Adam's Dirty Dozen, Dee Dee's Goon Squad, Tweb's In-Crowd, The Brood of Vipers & Exorcised by Ty & Dee Dee - Franktalk: "Your logic knows by common sense that what I said makes no sense because I stated to not trust what I stated."
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June 19th 2008, 11:09 AM #60
Re: Until we all become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
I never said this thread would not reference the Lakeland issue. I said it would be about the substance of the Holy Spirit's work in the time of the end there, and in much of the body of Christ.
I wanted to focus on the positive going forward but without the bickering of the other thread. I started this thread to leave that behind.
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