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  • #61
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    The linked post is about Jim Jones and it didn't really make much sense to me because I lack the historical knowledge about Jim Jones and lack any interest in the topic, so I hadn't planned to participate in that thread.

    Milk is not my hero either, and prior to this thread I'd never heard of him, and I'd forgotten his name in the two years subsequent to this thread - the 1-sentence summary of why he is famous that I posted in post 43 a couple of years ago was probably a product of reading this thread at the time and browsing internet sources on the subject. Your post about Jim Jones has a sentence or two to the effect that Milk approved of Jones at some point in his life. That doesn't strike me as particularly interesting because people change and their reasons for approval change... presumably Milk no longer approved after the guy did the Kool Aid massacre. I don't really understand what point your thread about Jones is trying to make... is it some sort of guilt by association attempt with the Democratic party? That seems dumb and was one of the reasons I wasn't planning to participate in that thread.

    Again, I don't really understand your guys obsession with these people, but whatever. But can you avoid making yourselves look loony by making absurd declarations about who my "heroes" are, and especially avoid declaring my heroes to be people I don't know?
    You pretty much confirmed something I said earlier reference your "knowledge" -- you just Google stuff.

    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    This would be great, if, like, you had any expertise whatsoever in this field.
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    He Googles stuff.

    And, based on your Googled information, you jump in with full force as though you actually understand things.

    Thanks for clearing that up.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #62
      Are you ready to apologize for your absurd claim that any of these men are my heroes?

      Or do you prefer to continue your pathetic bluster?
      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        Are you ready to apologize for your absurd claim that any of these men are my heroes?

        Or do you prefer to continue your pathetic bluster?
        I apologize that your nutty habit of Googling stuff, then pretending to be knowledgeable about it, led me to the false conclusion that you actually knew anything about the dude you were defending.

        I do appreciate you confirming my suspicion, though.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          I apologize that your nutty habit of Googling stuff, then pretending to be knowledgeable about it, led me to the false conclusion that you actually knew anything about the dude you were defending.

          I do appreciate you confirming my suspicion, though.
          So you see gaining knowledge, and doing so with google, as a negative? Both explain a lot about you.

          You also think that doing that occasionally means I do it all the time? You're a weird nut.
          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            So you see gaining knowledge, and doing so with google, as a negative? Both explain a lot about you.
            No, Star - it's like I said -- Googling stuff then PRETENDING that you know stuff. It's misleading. It also seems to reveal a need you have to make others think you're smart - like some kind of inferiority complex or something.

            You also think that doing that occasionally means I do it all the time?
            I'm more convinced than I was before, yes, and I'm convinced you do it far more than you'd admit. But, again, thanks for admitting you do it.

            You're a weird nut.
            Yes. Yes, I am.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
              The "hero" in this context would ostensibly be Mr. Milk, who you seemed to know fairly well in post 43.
              In post #43 the sum total of what I said about Milk was:
              The guy was a leader in passing civil rights legislation to protect gay people

              Do you normally interpret a bland half-sentence summary easily gotten from any source as indicating the person knows the other person "fairly well"? That seems rather strange on your part.
              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                In post #43 the sum total of what I said about Milk was:
                The guy was a leader in passing civil rights legislation to protect gay people
                pinocchios.jpg

                What you said, in total, was...

                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                Yeah I was gonna say that the crazy accusations being spouted against Milk here looked identical to the ones I debunked about Hay in a past thread.

                The anti gay hatred is over the top in this thread. Get a grip people.

                The guy was a leader in passing civil rights legislation to protect gay people, and he's being honoured for that as part of a series of civil rights activists who are being honoured. Nothing exciting to see here really.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  No, Star - it's like I said -- Googling stuff then PRETENDING that you know stuff.
                  If I come across something I don't know, and I'm interested in learning about it, I google it. I consider learning stuff to be a virtue. Your view of this as being negative makes you come across as pretty anti-intellectual.

                  It's misleading.


                  So... if I post literally a half-sentence factual description of a person the thread is about as being a civil rights activist... that misleads you? Because you think "well he must be Starlight's personal hero!" rather than thinking like any normal person would of "that's a half-sentence general description of a person that could have come from anywhere, and where it came from is not a particularly interesting issue"?

                  It also seems to reveal a need you have to make others think you're smart - like some kind of inferiority complex or something.
                  Yawn. Whatever.

                  I do think you and a few others here have inferiority complexes, and my intelligence frightens you, so you've got to constantly try to prove to yourselves that I'm not smart and/or you are.
                  Last edited by Starlight; 11-19-2018, 09:11 PM.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    What you said, in total, was...
                    The rest of post #43 was general comments about the state of the thread, not about Milk himself.

                    Or are you seriously going to argue...
                    The anti gay hatred is over the top in this thread. Get a grip people.
                    ...was a statement indicating my in-depth and personal knowledge about my ""hero"" Milk?!?
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      If I come across something I don't know, and I'm interested in learning about it, I google it. I consider learning stuff to be a virtue.
                      I do, too, but then I almost always post the link, and don't pretend I just happened to know stuff.

                      Your view of this as being negative makes you come across as pretty anti-intellectual.
                      Your willful twisting of what I said makes you come across as anti-truthful.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Here's some more info about one of your heroes of the faithless.
                        Let's go back to this bizarre statement.

                        You've now explained, I think, that you're referring to Milk (which this thread was primarily about) as opposed to Jones (which the link is primarily about).

                        But you haven't explained what "heroes of the faithless" means. Is it me who's the 'faithless'? Is is them who are faithless? How does atheism come into any of this? The primary reason why most conservatives in this thread were hating on Milk was because he was gay, and they were turning up the homophobia pretty high. But now he's bad because he was an atheist? Is he supposed to be the hero of all atheist posters here because he's an atheist? ...who's hero is he, why, and what does 'of the faithless' mean?

                        And finally... what on earth was your actually point supposed to be in linking that? What does linking to a post about Jones which mentions in passing that Milk at one point liked/supported him, demonstrate?
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #72

                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          I do think you and a few others here have inferiority complexes, and my intelligence frightens you, so you've got to constantly try to prove to yourselves that I'm not smart and/or you are.


                          I just noticed this part. You're hilarious!!!!

                          That may have to go in my signature!!!!!
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            In post #43 the sum total of what I said about Milk was:
                            The guy was a leader in passing civil rights legislation to protect gay people

                            Do you normally interpret a bland half-sentence summary easily gotten from any source as indicating the person knows the other person "fairly well"? That seems rather strange on your part.
                            In fairness, I was going by memory on the post number (you included more in the subsequent post). You certainly were not entirely igorant of him, as you pretended.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post


                              Yawn. Whatever.

                              I do think you and a few others here have inferiority complexes, and my intelligence frightens you, so you've got to constantly try to prove to yourselves that I'm not smart and/or you are.
                              [*Snort*]

                              Yawn. Whatever.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                                That may have to go in my signature!!!!!
                                Nah! Stick with your hero Trump's modest self-assessment, several times repeated, that he is a 'very stable genius'.
                                “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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