Thread: YHWH Allah
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September 13th 2008, 08:34 AM #106
Re: YHWH Allah
Contradicting yourself yet again Ms Susan? You said that words didn't change their form over time, remember?I don't think so. Dios comes from the Latin Theos which in turn is ultimately derived from Indo-European word deva. The devil comes from the same root.
Theos originates from Zeus, which is derived from Vedic "Dyaus" "Dyaus Pita" - God the Father:
In the Vedic religion Dyauṣ Pitar is the Sky Father......His origins can be traced to the Proto-Indo-European sky god *Dyeus, who appears in Greek as Zeus patēr (accusative Día, genitive Diós), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyaus_Pita
So Theos, Zeus, Dyaus and Dios are all the same word with different dialects.
Just as Eloha, Allaha, Allah and Elohim are the same.
The english word "God" is derived from Persian "Ghodda".
Last edited by Narnian; September 13th 2008 at 08:53 AM.
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September 13th 2008, 12:23 PM #107
Re: YHWH Allah
I disagree that Theos originates from Zeus. I believe it is more correct that they have common eytimology. Theos in Greek simple means a God. In the bible it was even used to indicate the devil. Zeus is the name of a specific God with the similar word origin.
[cite=http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/God.htm] To distinguish the one true God from pagan deities, the majority of Greek texts precede the noun Theós with the definite article “ho’ (meaning “the, this, that”). Of course, to simply say “the God” does not prove he is, in reality, the supreme deity. For example, in 2 Corinthians 4:4 the Greek text reads, “ho Theós” but refers to Satan, calling him, “…the god of this world.” [/quote]
OKIn the Vedic religion Dyauṣ Pitar is the Sky Father......His origins can be traced to the Proto-Indo-European sky god *Dyeus, who appears in Greek as Zeus patēr (accusative Día, genitive Diós),
Unsupported, Theos and Zeus are not the same word, they have shared origins.So Theos, Zeus, Dyaus and Dios are all the same word with different dialects.Go with the flow the river knows.
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September 13th 2008, 08:53 PM #108
Re: YHWH Allah
No, I said there was a certain predictability about the *way* words change. You were drawing derivatives that didn't match what I know about linquistics.
I think the Indo-European root deva is much more likely. But yes, Zeus is probably from the same root.Theos originates from Zeus, which is derived from Vedic "Dyaus" "Dyaus Pita" - God the Father:
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October 23rd 2008, 08:02 PM #109
Re: YHWH Allah
ALLAH < Arabic >
2; 255 , 3 ; 23 , 3 ; 62 , 4 ; 87 , 5 ; 47 , 20 ; 8 , 20 ; 14 ,
ALLAH Is another name for ANU , But ALLAH Is not only reserved as his name because all the other beings , The ELOHEEM , ANUNNAQI Are ALLAHS , The Koran Even confirms that , There is more than one ALLAH ( Koran 53 ; 19 , 10 ; 10 , 36 ; 23 , 38 ; 6 ) , ALLAH Means The Source '' . This word ALLAH Came from The Hebrew word Eloh < Aramic > Which is from The Ancient Babylonian , Eloh < Aramic > . ALLAH Is made up of A definite Article Al ( J , The ) And Ha .. Him / It ) The Name ALLAH Stems from the root '' Alaha ''
Meaning ; '' He Worshipped , He Adored , He Served . Don't Believe Me , Check It Out ! You can also find the fact , That Allah < Arabic > Is Not A Name , But Really A Form Of The Aramic / Hebrew Eloh , In A Book By J.R. Smith , Entitled '' Arabic '' - A Complete Course For Beginners '' On Page 155 , Where it definer '' Allah '' And It Says , And I Quote ; '' Allah Not A Name , But Simply A Contracted Form Of The Arabic Word El Elah < Arabic > . Meaning , '' The God '' , Which Is Equivalent To El Eloh < Aramic > .
You will also see this spelling Ilaahu < Arabic > . The true name for the Creator whom we call ALLAH Is Hu , Hu Or Huwa Is the explanation of The Ha In ALLAH . The Egyptian called their great deity '' Hu '' , Meaning '' The Creative Will Of Force '' , Thousand Of Years Before Your Koran .
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October 24th 2008, 12:58 AM #110
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October 24th 2008, 09:25 AM #111
Re: YHWH Allah
HUWA < Arabic >
2 ; 29 , 2 ; 137 , 2 l 255 , 3 ; 2 , 3 ; 6 , 3 ; 150 , 5 ; 120 , 6 ; 2 . 11 ; 34 .
The Ashuric / Syriac Arabic HUWA < Arabic > Means '' He Who Is '' Like The Words That Preceeded It , This Word Also Came From The Aramic Hebrew Word Also Came From The Aramic / Hebrew Word , YAHUWA , And Translates As '' He Who Is Who He Is '' . Both Of These Came From The Ancient Egyptian Deity HU , '' The Force Of Creative Will , '' Another Name For ANU , HUWA Or YAHUWA Can Be Used For An Agreeable '' Yah '' , Or Disagreeable Being , '' Weh , '' The Word '' YAHUWA '' Is A Title .
This Title Does Not Pertain To Any Individuals . It Can Be Passed On To Another Being ; Even A Mortal Can Be A '' YAHUWA , And More Than One , As Found In Malachi 4 ; 5 , This Is The First Name Called On By Adam And Eve's Children . Without Vowels . It Is YHWH , Which Some Groups Pronounce As YAHWEH ; And Other Pronounce As JEHOVAH , However , In Ancient Babylon , YEHWEH Meat ; YEH '' Good '' And WEH '' '' Evil . ''
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November 4th 2008, 06:01 PM #112
Re: YHWH Allah
Thus, Therefore
LORD God = YHWH Allah
YHWH Allah
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November 5th 2008, 06:09 PM #113
Re: YHWH Allah
No,
LORD is a KJV'ism which was the chosen way to translate YHVH, Allah is a name for Abraham's god (little g), like YHVH and all its permutations (see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh)“And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened.
(Luke 11:9-10)
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November 8th 2008, 03:10 AM #114
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November 9th 2008, 02:50 PM #115
Re: YHWH Allah
“And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened.
(Luke 11:9-10)
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February 7th 2011, 10:57 PM #116
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February 8th 2011, 03:48 PM #117
Re: YHWH Allah
I mean, in the KJV where LORD appears in all caps, it refers to Adonai.
“And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened.
(Luke 11:9-10)
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February 10th 2011, 02:36 AM #118
Re: YHWH Allah
http://bahai-islam.blogspot.com/
Religious fanaticism and hatred are a world-devouring fire, whose violence none can quench.
(Baha'u'llah, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 13)
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February 10th 2011, 01:01 PM #119
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February 10th 2011, 01:05 PM #120
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