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      I don't think so. Dios comes from the Latin Theos which in turn is ultimately derived from Indo-European word deva. The devil comes from the same root.
      Contradicting yourself yet again Ms Susan? You said that words didn't change their form over time, remember?

      Theos originates from Zeus, which is derived from Vedic "Dyaus" "Dyaus Pita" - God the Father:

      In the Vedic religion Dyauṣ Pitar is the Sky Father......His origins can be traced to the Proto-Indo-European sky god *Dyeus, who appears in Greek as Zeus patēr (accusative Día, genitive Diós), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyaus_Pita

      So Theos, Zeus, Dyaus and Dios are all the same word with different dialects.

      Just as Eloha, Allaha, Allah and Elohim are the same.

      The english word "God" is derived from Persian "Ghodda".

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      Quote Originally posted by Narnian View Post
      Contradicting yourself yet again Ms Susan? You said that words didn't change their form over time, remember?

      Theos originates from Zeus, which is derived from Vedic "Dyaus" "Dyaus Pita" - God the Father:
      I disagree that Theos originates from Zeus. I believe it is more correct that they have common eytimology. Theos in Greek simple means a God. In the bible it was even used to indicate the devil. Zeus is the name of a specific God with the similar word origin.

      [cite=http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/God.htm] To distinguish the one true God from pagan deities, the majority of Greek texts precede the noun Theós with the definite article “ho’ (meaning “the, this, that”). Of course, to simply say “the God” does not prove he is, in reality, the supreme deity. For example, in 2 Corinthians 4:4 the Greek text reads, “ho Theós” but refers to Satan, calling him, “…the god of this world.” [/quote]

      In the Vedic religion Dyauṣ Pitar is the Sky Father......His origins can be traced to the Proto-Indo-European sky god *Dyeus, who appears in Greek as Zeus patēr (accusative Día, genitive Diós),
      OK

      So Theos, Zeus, Dyaus and Dios are all the same word with different dialects.
      Unsupported, Theos and Zeus are not the same word, they have shared origins.
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      Quote Originally posted by Narnian View Post
      Contradicting yourself yet again Ms Susan? You said that words didn't change their form over time, remember?
      No, I said there was a certain predictability about the *way* words change. You were drawing derivatives that didn't match what I know about linquistics.

      Theos originates from Zeus, which is derived from Vedic "Dyaus" "Dyaus Pita" - God the Father:
      I think the Indo-European root deva is much more likely. But yes, Zeus is probably from the same root.

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      Re: YHWH Allah

      ALLAH < Arabic >
      2; 255 , 3 ; 23 , 3 ; 62 , 4 ; 87 , 5 ; 47 , 20 ; 8 , 20 ; 14 ,
      ALLAH Is another name for ANU , But ALLAH Is not only reserved as his name because all the other beings , The ELOHEEM , ANUNNAQI Are ALLAHS , The Koran Even confirms that , There is more than one ALLAH ( Koran 53 ; 19 , 10 ; 10 , 36 ; 23 , 38 ; 6 ) , ALLAH Means The Source '' . This word ALLAH Came from The Hebrew word Eloh < Aramic > Which is from The Ancient Babylonian , Eloh < Aramic > . ALLAH Is made up of A definite Article Al ( J , The ) And Ha .. Him / It ) The Name ALLAH Stems from the root '' Alaha ''

      Meaning ; '' He Worshipped , He Adored , He Served . Don't Believe Me , Check It Out ! You can also find the fact , That Allah < Arabic > Is Not A Name , But Really A Form Of The Aramic / Hebrew Eloh , In A Book By J.R. Smith , Entitled '' Arabic '' - A Complete Course For Beginners '' On Page 155 , Where it definer '' Allah '' And It Says , And I Quote ; '' Allah Not A Name , But Simply A Contracted Form Of The Arabic Word El Elah < Arabic > . Meaning , '' The God '' , Which Is Equivalent To El Eloh < Aramic > .

      You will also see this spelling Ilaahu < Arabic > . The true name for the Creator whom we call ALLAH Is Hu , Hu Or Huwa Is the explanation of The Ha In ALLAH . The Egyptian called their great deity '' Hu '' , Meaning '' The Creative Will Of Force '' , Thousand Of Years Before Your Koran .

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      Quote Originally posted by MiykaEl View Post
      You will also see this spelling Ilaahu < Arabic > . The true name for the Creator whom we call ALLAH Is Hu , Hu Or Huwa Is the explanation of The Ha In ALLAH . The Egyptian called their great deity '' Hu '' , Meaning '' The Creative Will Of Force '' , Thousand Of Years Before Your Koran .
      Hua means He, but it is used by Sufis to refer to God's quiddity, so in that sense it is the equivalent of Yahweh.

      When you say Ya Hua (O He) it even sounds like Yahweh.

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      Quote Originally posted by smaneck View Post
      Hua means He, but it is used by Sufis to refer to God's quiddity, so in that sense it is the equivalent of Yahweh.

      When you say Ya Hua (O He) it even sounds like Yahweh.


      HUWA < Arabic >
      2 ; 29 , 2 ; 137 , 2 l 255 , 3 ; 2 , 3 ; 6 , 3 ; 150 , 5 ; 120 , 6 ; 2 . 11 ; 34 .
      The Ashuric / Syriac Arabic HUWA < Arabic > Means '' He Who Is '' Like The Words That Preceeded It , This Word Also Came From The Aramic Hebrew Word Also Came From The Aramic / Hebrew Word , YAHUWA , And Translates As '' He Who Is Who He Is '' . Both Of These Came From The Ancient Egyptian Deity HU , '' The Force Of Creative Will , '' Another Name For ANU , HUWA Or YAHUWA Can Be Used For An Agreeable '' Yah '' , Or Disagreeable Being , '' Weh , '' The Word '' YAHUWA '' Is A Title .

      This Title Does Not Pertain To Any Individuals . It Can Be Passed On To Another Being ; Even A Mortal Can Be A '' YAHUWA , And More Than One , As Found In Malachi 4 ; 5 , This Is The First Name Called On By Adam And Eve's Children . Without Vowels . It Is YHWH , Which Some Groups Pronounce As YAHWEH ; And Other Pronounce As JEHOVAH , However , In Ancient Babylon , YEHWEH Meat ; YEH '' Good '' And WEH '' '' Evil . ''

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      Re: YHWH Allah

      Thus, Therefore

      LORD God = YHWH Allah

      YHWH Allah

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      Quote Originally posted by Garry Denke View Post
      Thus, Therefore

      LORD God = YHWH Allah

      YHWH Allah
      No,

      LORD is a KJV'ism which was the chosen way to translate YHVH, Allah is a name for Abraham's god (little g), like YHVH and all its permutations (see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh)
      “And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
      For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened.
      (Luke 11:9-10)

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      Quote Originally posted by barnasha View Post
      No,

      LORD is a KJV'ism which was the chosen way to translate YHVH, Allah is a name for Abraham's god (little g), like YHVH and all its permutations (see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh)
      It was a direct translation of Adonai which was used in Hebrew to replace the tetragram.

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      Quote Originally posted by smaneck View Post
      It was a direct translation of Adonai which was used in Hebrew to replace the tetragram.
      Yes, used when reading - when they saw the word YHVH (which in context referred to The All Mighty), they would instead read "my lord", (Adonai).
      “And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
      For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened.
      (Luke 11:9-10)

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      Quote Originally posted by Garry Denke View Post
      The Holy Bible-Qur'an names YHWH Allah.
      The 'allah' of the Koran is not the true Biblical creator God of the Holy Bible.

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      I mean, in the KJV where LORD appears in all caps, it refers to Adonai.
      “And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
      For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened.
      (Luke 11:9-10)

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      Quote Originally posted by Bowman View Post
      The 'allah' of the Koran is not the true Biblical creator God of the Holy Bible.
      Allah is the Arabic cognate of Elohim.
      http://bahai-islam.blogspot.com/

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      Re: YHWH Allah

      Quote Originally posted by smaneck View Post
      Allah is the Arabic cognate of Elohim.
      No, it is not.

      There is absolutely no etymological relationship between the terms at all.

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      Re: YHWH Allah

      Quote Originally posted by smaneck View Post
      There are lots of names for God in the Bible. Besides the tetragram, the most popular name is Elohim. Allah is a direct cognate to that name.

      Incidentally, YHWH appears nowhere in the New Testament either, so if you are going to reject the Qur'an on this basis you should reject the New Testament as well.
      Elohim is not a name for God. Elohim MEANS God (among a few other things.)
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      I don't care how systematic your theology is until you show me how biblical it is.

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