YHWH Allah

[Garry Denke]

Vatican: Stop Saying / Singing "YHWH"

On Friday, 8th August 2008, the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments issued a Letter
to Bishops' Conferences forbidding the vocalization of "YHWH" in the liturgy, song and prayer. Please see these links:

http://communio.stblogs.org/2008/08/...me-of-god.html
http://www.execulink.com/~dtribe/blo...20of%20God.pdf

"YHWH" Allah is never Recited.

[smaneck]

سوزان

Dear Garry,

Are you testing my Arabic?

My name is spelled Susan, not Suzan. Also, there is no alif in the second syllable.

Any translation of the Qur'an immediately ceases to be the literal word of YHWH Allah,
and hence cannot be equated with the Qur'an in its original Arabic form. Blessings.

Your point being?

warmest, Susan

[Ibn Abu Talib]

Was Allah the name of a pagan moon-deity? Yep.

Provide your proof if you are truthful.

[Ibn Abu Talib]

And since this is not a fruitful conversation, which it rarely ever can be, end of the conversation for kitty-kitty.

coward.

[Garry Denke]

Your point being?

Susan (written) Suzan (spoken),

The point is that Allāh (spoken) is in the Tanakh,
and that YHWH (written) is in the Qur'an (recite).

Love and blessings,

YHWH (written) Allah (spoken)

[smaneck]

Susan (written) Suzan (spoken),

The point is that Allāh (spoken) is in the Tanakh,
and that YHWH (written) is in the Qur'an (recite).

The first part of what you said is more or less correct. But not the second part. The Tetragram appears nowhere in the Qur'an or the New Testament.

[Garry Denke]

coward.

no, wise.

الله is in the Bible, יַהְוֶה is in the Qur'an.
-- Allah (spoken) YHWH (written)

Never write Allāh, never say YHWH.
-- YHWH (written) Allah (spoken)

c'ést fini.

[smaneck]

no, wise.

الله is in the Bible, יַהְוֶה is in the Qur'an.

Show it to me. It should either look like this: يهوه or this: يحوح

[Garry Denke]

Show it to me. It should either look like this: يهوه or this: يحوح

Surely you mean say it to me. Okay... listen...

Did you hear it Susan?

G-D

[enoch_jhansi]

At the time Muhammad received his initial visitation, there were over 300 gods being worshiped in Mecca by pilgrims who came there each year to pray at the Ka'aba, a small cubic building that housed a black meteorite and effigies of the various gods. One of those gods was Allah, the moon god.

Please Take Some To read this at.

http://www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_islam1.php

[smaneck]

One of those gods was Allah, the moon god.

I couldn't help but notice that your website offers no evidence for this assertion whatsoever.

Yes, there was an idol to Allah within the Kaaba, but He was no moon god. If anything, Allah was unconceived of by the pre-Islamic Arabs as similiar to Marduk, the high-god of Mesopotamia. Like Marduk, he was said to have had three daughters, a notion which the Qur'an explicilty condemns.


And they ascribe daughters unto God! Glory be to Him! But they desire
them not for themselves:

(The Qur'an (Rodwell tr), Sura 16 - The Bee)

In a similiar manner the worship of any heavenly body is rejected in this story told about Abraham:

And when the night overshadowed him, he beheld a star. "This," said he,
"is my Lord:" but when it set, he said, "I love not gods which set."

And when he beheld the moon uprising, "This," said he, "is my Lord:" but
when it set, he said, "Surely, if my Lord guide me not, I shall surely be of
those who go astray."

And when he beheld the sun uprise, he said, "This is my Lord; this is
greatest." But when it set, he said, "O my people! I share not with you the
guilt of joining gods with God;

(Qur'an 6:175)

The notion that Allah was a moon god has it origins in the theory of a Danish scholar who held that *all* the Semitic godsoriginally represted Mother Sun, Father Moon or Son Venus. By that logic Yahweh and Elohim are moon dieities as well. And Jesus is the god of Venus!

[enoch_jhansi]

A creator cannot become a creation.

John 1:3 (KJV) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Mohammed who introduced allah CANNOT be the Jehovah, Elohim, whatsoever....


Only jews worphiped the living God... they rejected and cricified Christ then...

And everyone are considered pagans and heathen by God then...

Philippians 2:5-11 (KJV)Php 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

[enoch_jhansi]

Romans 10:9-13 (KJV)Ro 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

[enoch_jhansi]

"evidence for"

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 Corinthians 13:1-13 (KJV)1Co 1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

2 Corinthians 5:17-21 (KJV)2Co 17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

1 John 3:1-4 (KJV)1Jn 1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

[enoch_jhansi]

ἐλωΐ .....Greek.. my God.

Original
Language Transliteration Strongs Occurrences
ἐλωΐ elōi <G1682> 2
—Strong's Concordance