YHWH Allah

[smaneck]

Elohim is not a name for God. Elohim MEANS God (among a few other things.)

Which is precisely what Allah is. It literally means "the God."

[smaneck]

No, it is not.

There is absolutely no etymological relationship between the terms at all.

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"The Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible defines "elohim" as a plural of eloah, an expanded form of the common Semitic noun "'il" (ʾēl). It contains an added heh as third radical to the biconsonantal root. Discussions of the etymology of elohim essentially concern this expansion. An exact cognate outside of Hebrew is found in Ugaritic ʾlhm, the family of El, the creator god and chief deity of the Canaanite pantheon, and in Arabic ʾilāh "god, deity" (or Allah as " The [single] God"). "El" (the basis for the extended root ʾlh) is usually derived from a root meaning "to be strong" and/or "to be in front"."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim

[Bowman]

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"The Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible defines "elohim" as a plural of eloah, an expanded form of the common Semitic noun "'il" (ʾēl). It contains an added heh as third radical to the biconsonantal root. Discussions of the etymology of elohim essentially concern this expansion. An exact cognate outside of Hebrew is found in Ugaritic ʾlhm, the family of El, the creator god and chief deity of the Canaanite pantheon, and in Arabic ʾilāh "god, deity" (or Allah as " The [single] God"). "El" (the basis for the extended root ʾlh) is usually derived from a root meaning "to be strong" and/or "to be in front"."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim

Hopefully you did not obtain your doctorate by googling wiki material as a reponse, sister.

Here is where you need even more correction...


אֱלֹהֵינוּ= “Elohim”

“Elohim” definition:

H430 A masculine plural noun. God, gods, judges, angels. This is not a “Plural of Majesty”. A better reason can be seen in scripture itself where, in the very first chapter of Genesis, the necessity of a term conveying both the unity of the one God and yet allowing for a plurality of persons is found (Gen 1.2, 26). This is further borne out by the fact that the form “Elohim” occurs only in Hebrew and in no other Semitic language, not even in Biblical Aramaic. Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.

H433 “eloah” Masculine singular noun. God or god. From H410; a deity or the deity: - God, god. See H430.


References:
Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament (TWOT) #93c, Harris, Archer, Waltke, volume 1, pp. 41 - 45
The Complete Wordstudy Dictionary of the Old Testament, Warren Baker, Eugene Carpenter, p. 54
The New Strong’s Expanded Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible Red-letter Edition, James Strong, LL.D., S.T.D., Hebrew and Aramaic dictionary, p. 17

[smaneck]

Hopefully you did not obtain your doctorate by googling wiki material as a reponse, sister.

This may come as a surprise to you but we are on the internet, therefore when you ask for a reference I give you those that are accessible on the internet, not what I have in my own library or my own head. It is only when you ask me to prove what I already know that I got looking for something that would accessible to you.

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]H430 A masculine plural noun. God

I believe I said that.

;.

A better reason can be seen in scripture itself where, in the very first chapter of Genesis, the necessity of a term conveying both the unity of the one God and yet allowing for a plurality of persons is found (Gen 1.2, 26).

That's Christian apologetics not scholarship.

Find me a Jewish scholar who would accept this interpretation. It is their scripture, after all.

[Bowman]

This may come as a surprise to you but we are on the internet, therefore when you ask for a reference I give you those that are accessible on the internet, not what I have in my own library or my own head. It is only when you ask me to prove what I already know that I got looking for something that would accessible to you.



I believe I said that.

;.

That's Christian apologetics not scholarship.

Find me a Jewish scholar who would accept this interpretation. It is their scripture, after all.

All you did was to hit the google button and pull the very first wiki hit on the very first page.

This is not research.

This is googling a quickie reply.

We would expect more from an individual who has capital letters after her name.

[smaneck]

All you did was to hit the google button and pull the very first wiki hit on the very first page.

This is not research.

That's true. I didn't need to do research because I already knew this was the case. I just looked for the first source that reinforced it.

This is googling a quickie reply.

You know what? You're not worth wasting anymore time on than that.

[Bowman]

That's true. I didn't need to do research because I already knew this was the case. I just looked for the first source that reinforced it.



You know what? You're not worth wasting anymore time on than that.

Come back when you have actually done some ol' fashioned research, sue...

[smaneck]

Come back when you have actually done some ol' fashioned research, sue...

Don't need a lot of research to refute your nonsense.

[Bowman]

Don't need a lot of research to refute your nonsense.

Doctorate degrees must come in cracker jack boxes...

[barnasha]

No, it is not.

There is absolutely no etymological relationship between the terms at all.

Not true at all, I think it would be more precise to say their root verb is of the same cognate. The noun form of each is different and the history behind them is different. But the usage is the same in each case.

Elohim is not a name for God

Then why do they translate it as God?

[Bowman]

Not true at all, I think it would be more precise to say their root verb is of the same cognate. The noun form of each is different and the history behind them is different. But the usage is the same in each case.

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[OneSizeFit]

alah = elah

el yah wah au ah aum.