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  • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
    Someone who is ok with abortion and homosexual relations is not a Christian.
    That is your opinion. Noted and rejected.
    "Obama is not a brown-skinned, anti-war socialist who gives away free healthcare. You are thinking of Jesus." Episcopal Bishop of Arizona

    I remember WinAce. Gone but not forgotten.

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    • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
      They're not Scripture's sort of Christian.
      Not one mention of abortion in the Bible.
      "Obama is not a brown-skinned, anti-war socialist who gives away free healthcare. You are thinking of Jesus." Episcopal Bishop of Arizona

      I remember WinAce. Gone but not forgotten.

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      • Originally posted by kiwimac View Post
        No, what actually happened was we started to grow up and to realise that consensual sex between two adults was really not a mental health issue.

        Sorry I was a psych major back in the day. The stuff going on was in all the newspapers at the time. I was there, you can not honestly say that it was not what actually happened. You do not know anything about it.
        Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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        • Originally posted by kiwimac View Post
          Not one mention of abortion in the Bible.
          There is not one mention of shooting someone so would that be okay? There are plenty of applicable "mentions" in the Bible as has been discussed here multiple times.
          Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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          • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
            They're not Scripture's sort of Christian.
            You mean that they're not your sort of Christian. But they are the majority of people who claim to be Christian and their views carry as much weight as yours.
            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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            • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              You mean that they're not your sort of Christian. But they are the majority of people who claim to be Christian and their views carry as much weight as yours.
              Far more weight than his.
              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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              • Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                Sorry I was a psych major back in the day. The stuff going on was in all the newspapers at the time. I was there, you can not honestly say that it was not what actually happened. You do not know anything about it.
                I was a bisexual teenager at the time, strangely, I think I might know what was happening as I was about.
                "Obama is not a brown-skinned, anti-war socialist who gives away free healthcare. You are thinking of Jesus." Episcopal Bishop of Arizona

                I remember WinAce. Gone but not forgotten.

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                • Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                  There is not one mention of shooting someone so would that be okay? There are plenty of applicable "mentions" in the Bible as has been discussed here multiple times.
                  The argument here is that, in Christian theology, ensoulement takes place at conception; this is a position based almost entirely on Greek philosophy and was largely formulated by St. Augustine of Hippo. It has no counterpart in Hebrew theology and certainly not in the OT, In Hebrew thought ensoulment takes place at first breath, as it did for Adam and Eve, not at conception. The Bible reflects the former POV not the latter.
                  "Obama is not a brown-skinned, anti-war socialist who gives away free healthcare. You are thinking of Jesus." Episcopal Bishop of Arizona

                  I remember WinAce. Gone but not forgotten.

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                  • Originally posted by kiwimac View Post
                    The argument here is that, in Christian theology, ensoulement takes place at conception; this is a position based almost entirely on Greek philosophy and was largely formulated by St. Augustine of Hippo. It has no counterpart in Hebrew theology and certainly not in the OT, In Hebrew thought ensoulment takes place at first breath, as it did for Adam and Eve, not at conception. The Bible reflects the former POV not the latter.
                    Furthermore, it's reasonable to assume that this was the view that Jesus himself espoused as a Jew. He says nothing contrary to this view.
                    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                    • Originally posted by kiwimac View Post
                      Not one mention of abortion in the Bible.
                      Plenty of mention of the sanctity of human life though, especially the innocent, and defenseless.

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                      • Originally posted by kiwimac View Post
                        The argument here is that, in Christian theology, ensoulement takes place at conception; this is a position based almost entirely on Greek philosophy and was largely formulated by St. Augustine of Hippo. It has no counterpart in Hebrew theology and certainly not in the OT, In Hebrew thought ensoulment takes place at first breath, as it did for Adam and Eve, not at conception. The Bible reflects the former POV not the latter.
                        You really think that is an argument? Adam didn't begin the same way as the rest of us. And fetuses do have cellular respiration. They just breath through the placenta instead of their lungs. If a baby were taken from the womb and immediately put on a heart lung machine due to not being able to breathe in an EXIT procedure(they do a c-section and hook the baby up why still using the placenta for life support), would that baby still not be alive by your definition?
                        If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                        • Originally posted by kiwimac View Post
                          The argument here is that, in Christian theology, ensoulement takes place at conception; this is a position based almost entirely on Greek philosophy and was largely formulated by St. Augustine of Hippo. It has no counterpart in Hebrew theology and certainly not in the OT, In Hebrew thought ensoulment takes place at first breath, as it did for Adam and Eve, not at conception. The Bible reflects the former POV not the latter.


                          Luke 1:40-42New International Reader's Version (NIRV)
                          40 There she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth. 41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby inside her jumped. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42 In a loud voice she called out, “God has blessed you more than other women. And blessed is the child you will have!

                          Psalm 139:12-14New International Version (NIV)
                          12 even the darkness will not be dark to you;
                          the night will shine like the day,
                          for darkness is as light to you.

                          13 For you created my inmost being;
                          you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
                          14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
                          your works are wonderful,
                          I know that full well.

                          Isaiah 49:1-3New International Version (NIV)
                          The Servant of the Lord
                          49 Listen to me, you islands;
                          hear this, you distant nations:
                          Before I was born the Lord called me;
                          from my mother’s womb he has spoken my name.

                          Genesis 25:21 Isaac prayed to the Lord on behalf of his wife, because she was childless. The Lord answered his prayer, and his wife Rebekah became pregnant. 22 The babies jostled each other within her, and she said, “Why is this happening to me?” So she went to inquire of the Lord.

                          23 The Lord said to her,

                          “Two nations are in your womb,
                          and two peoples from within you will be separated;
                          one people will be stronger than the other,
                          and the older will serve the younger.”

                          24 When the time came for her to give birth, there were twin boys in her womb. 25 The first to come out was red, and his whole body was like a hairy garment; so they named him Esau.[d] 26 After this, his brother came out, with his hand grasping Esau’s heel; so he was named Jacob.[e] Isaac was sixty years old when Rebekah gave birth to them.

                          Adam was a special case being created from the dust. Also, from what I understand babies are already breathing even in the womb, just not into their lungs as air.

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                          • It's interesting to note that the "old catholic priest" is so much more in line with some of our most notorious atheists than he is with the Christians on this board.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              It's interesting to note that the "old catholic priest" is so much more in line with some of our most notorious atheists than he is with the Christians on this board.
                              Hmmm... maybe kiwimac should tell us who Jesus of Nazareth is?
                              If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                              • Originally posted by kiwimac View Post
                                The argument here is that, in Christian theology, ensoulement takes place at conception; this is a position based almost entirely on Greek philosophy and was largely formulated by St. Augustine of Hippo. It has no counterpart in Hebrew theology and certainly not in the OT, In Hebrew thought ensoulment takes place at first breath, as it did for Adam and Eve, not at conception. The Bible reflects the former POV not the latter.
                                So what, we are still killing and innocent human beings. What is wrong with you? And if there is ambiguity (which there is not) should we not err on the side of life?
                                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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