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Pedophilia - The Next Taboo To Fall?
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The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou countered with a begged question. If we accept your claim that it is inherently immoral for a young women to consent to certain relationships with an older man, then you have to accept that God's Chosen People did what was inherently immoral for thousands of years when Jewish custom allowed for a woman as young as 13 to marry a man as old as 24, and God never said a word about it, and even Paul appears to have affirmed an "inherently immoral" tradition in one of his letters. How do you reconcile this?
And is it simply the age discrepancy that bothers you? Would you be fine with it if the two parties were closer in age?
And I should point out, again, that I'm not saying that young women necessarily should enter those sorts of relationships, nor am I saying that every female of a certain age is necessarily emotionally and mentally capable of consenting to such a relationship, nor am I saying that it would be proper for a female to be coerced into such a relationship. What I am saying is that such a relationship is not inherently immoral in and of itself, and declaring it so puts you at odds with scripture.
To put it another way, there are good arguments against a young woman entering into a relationship with an older man, but stamping your foot and yelling, "It's inherently immoral!" is not one of them. However, there are NO good arguments for a CHILD to enter into any kind of romantic relationship. In other words, what I've said here can in no way be used as a defense for pedophilia.
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Originally posted by Sparkothe age isn't the problem. It is the imbalance in power. . . . There would be no equality there.
Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postthe age isn't the problem. It is the imbalance in power. Even in the ANE a 30 year old would not marry a 12 year old. and as I said before kids grew up a lot earlier in the ANE. My 13 year old niece is just a kid. She plays with dolls and such. She is not ready for dating much less marrying. She doesn't know how to be an adult. A 30 year old wanting to date her or marry her would be immoral because he would be putting undue influence on her and the relationship would be one of a parent like authority over a child. There would be no equality there. It would be immoral.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Obsidian View PostThere's supposed to be an imbalance in power. You're talking like a feminist.
Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord."Obama is not a brown-skinned, anti-war socialist who gives away free healthcare. You are thinking of Jesus." Episcopal Bishop of Arizona
I remember WinAce. Gone but not forgotten.
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Originally posted by Obsidian View PostThere's supposed to be an imbalance in power. You're talking like a feminist.
Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
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Originally posted by kiwimac View PostStrangely enough most of us do not look to a 2000 year old book for instruction in relationships.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Obsidian View PostThere's supposed to be an imbalance in power. You're talking like a feminist.
Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Marriage is not about dominating your wife. It is a partnership. she is to be a man's helpmate. That is not possible with an adult married to a child.
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostAre you actually priest?"Obama is not a brown-skinned, anti-war socialist who gives away free healthcare. You are thinking of Jesus." Episcopal Bishop of Arizona
I remember WinAce. Gone but not forgotten.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThat goes a long way towards explaining many of the problems with today's society."Obama is not a brown-skinned, anti-war socialist who gives away free healthcare. You are thinking of Jesus." Episcopal Bishop of Arizona
I remember WinAce. Gone but not forgotten.
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Originally posted by kiwimac View PostYes, Priest and Monsignor to be exact. My relationship with my wife is not slavishly bound to what Paul had to say.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostVerse 21: 21 Submit yourselves to one another because of your reverence for Christ.
Marriage is not about dominating your wife. It is a partnership. she is to be a man's helpmate. That is not possible with an adult married to a child.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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