September 2008 SCrewballs

[Challenger Grim]

Anyone nominated antispore.com yet?

So I just alert the moderators now that I'm about to have another furious break

I love sandboxy games. Get off it stupid site. Heck, where are the science geeks complaining about Spore teaching intelligent design (you do create the lifes after all...) or bad science (since when do single celled organisms breed sexually? etc)

Man I'm ticked...

[jpholding]

I nominate Dreck for his JPHOCD. After clearly being on ignore by JP, he says,

He has it backwards. Putting him on Ignore was my way of forcing him into MY timetable and derailing his.


Multiple awards today.

* To Infidels.org, for featuring DJ's book and also an article by Gary Lenaire on Nicaea. I knew standards were low there, but REALLY....

* To Acharya S and Co., for this review of my latest book:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Christ.../message/12152

Acharya S is mentioned 38 times throughout this book. She's mentioned
in the foreword written by Mike Licona. There's a 5 page "profile" in
ch 19 (252) which is a copy/paste job of Licona's review of "Christ
Conspiracy" and Acharya's responses from 2001 along with some extra
commentary. Ch 22 (292) is the Zeitgeist section with 50 pages. And
ch 26 (375) is where the old Dr. Price review of "Christ Conspiracy"
is mentioned even though it has been removed as he no longer stands by
it and hasn't for several years now.

Most of it has already been refuted long ago and has been in the
F.A.Q. http://forums.truthbeknown.com/viewt...t=1149&start=0

"Most of it has already been refuted" = "we said something on this topic here, whatever it was".

and "Preventing Truth Decay responds"
http://forums.truthbeknown.com/viewt...hp?p=4793#4793

Here are Acharya citations I found to save you the time (FN = footnotes).

* Acharya is mentioned in the foreword by Licona

* ch 14. 201, 3, 6, 7, 8 FN's #16, #21, #24

* ch 15. 221 FN #1

* ch 16. 223 Egypt section

* ch 18. 243 Beddru FN #11

* ch 19. 252 "Acharya S" section = 5 pages which are a copy/paste job
of Licona and Acharya responses from 2001. FN citations = 8

* ch 22. (by Jonathan Brown) 292 Zeitgeist section = 50 pages, FN
citations = 20

* ch 26. Dr. Price section - Acharya 375 and FN #10

Yeesh. Think someone here has a pedantic obsession?

She is mentioned 150 times at Holdings Tekton (Also means Freemason in
modern Greek) website. She only felt the need to write one response
article for Licona and one for Holding which still suffices.

tekton = freemason, righto. "Felt the need" = "she figured just screeching a little was sufficient."

First of all, you should be made aware that JP Holding has no
qualifications whatsoever in any Biblical field, he knows no Biblical
languages, and has no relevant training, yet has the temerity to
presume that his OPINION is enough, and that his personal FAITH is all
that he needs, to offer a vicious and vitriolic critique of credible
credentialed scholars who are trained in this area of expertise. JP
Holding has no training in comparative religion. No training in
mythology. No training in archaeoastronomy. No training in
astrotheology. Nothing relevant.

I'm still wondering what university it is that offers a degree in "astrotheology." And who are the "credentialed scholars" here? Bob Price? He disses even more credentialed scholars than he is.

And then of course...

So, don't take my word for it...see it for yourself.

TEKTONICS.ORG: EXPOSED!
http://the-anointed-one.com/exposed.html

'James Patrick Holding, the Want-to-Be Apologist'
http://www.infidels.org/library/maga.../4/024jph.html

JP Holding Exposed
http://the-anointed-one.com/search2.htm

'Dishonesty by Robert Turkel (J.P. Holding)'
http://www.discord.org/~lippard/turkeldishonesty.html

A Reply to J. P. Holding
http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...s/holding.html

"Writing James P Holding Off!"
http://debunkingchristianity.blogspo...olding-off.ht\
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"Prove Jesus Existed, Please!"
http://www.truthbeknown.com/holding.htm

James Patrick Holding: Another Apostate With Selective Education
http://www.darrellwconder.com/debate1.html

Do a google for JP Holding and his alt. "Sheila Rangslinger" -

"DISCLOSURE FROM ADMIN: "Sheila Rangslinger" was discovered to be a
sock puppet identity created by J.P. Holding. Any statements about
J.P. Holding in this post were written by J.P. Holding himself."

They still think I'm a six foot tall female rabbit, apparently.

Second, the book contains no index so it is very inconvenient for use
as any sort of reference guide. One has to skim the whole book and/or
search the footnote citations at the end of each chapter in hopes of
finding whatever one may be looking for. One would think Holding, a
former prison librarian with a Masters in library science would've
thought of an index. He never does say why he had that prison library
job - was he in prison? He won't say.

Other than on the resume' on my site, no. As for the Index, not needed -- the chapter title and descriptions are sufficient, except maybe for someone with a pedantic obsession for name-trawling to see if their heroine is being flattened.

This book will appeal to those who are to lazy to do their own serious
research but I'm sure the outdated/already refuted arguments will
still be used in attempts to shore-up the Christian faith, regardless.

Why pay for this book when everything is already available online in
forums? It is essentially a copy/paste re-cap of internet discussions
over the last 8 years. The arguments remain unchanged and predictable.

I remain unconvinced by the anti-mythicist arguments. After 2,000
years Christians still can't provide convincing evidence for a
historical Jesus. But thanks for advertising the mythicist
perspective, although poorly presented. This book may best be
utilized as inadvertently demonstrating that the anti-mythicist cult
still have a lot to learn about the history of disbelief and mythology.

With a nod to Historian Stephen Henry Roberts 1901-71, I say:

I maintain that we are both mythicists. You simply take the Jesus
myth literally. When you understand why you dismiss all other
possible Gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

Well, maybe one day they'll actually answer some of those arguments instead of screeching.

* To Dr. William Halfwit -- er, Harwood -- who did the review of TIF last noted. I posted a link to his Award on his blog (under Sheila's name) and he deleted it quietly deleted it without comment. And here's a laugh in close -- check out this picture of him! He even looks the part of a nut. Wouldn't want to meet THIS even in a well-lighted room...

[Mountain Man]

* To Dr. William Halfwit -- er, Harwood -- who did the review of TIF last noted. I posted a link to his Award on his blog (under Sheila's name) and he deleted it quietly deleted it without comment.

He did the same with a comment I left. I actually posted it again when I noticed my first comment was deleted. I haven't bothered going back, but I imagine he banned me from making further comments.

[JB]

* To Acharya S and Co., for this review of my latest book:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Christ.../message/12152



"Most of it has already been refuted" = "we said something on this topic here, whatever it was".



Yeesh. Think someone here has a pedantic obsession?



tekton = freemason, righto. "Felt the need" = "she figured just screeching a little was sufficient."



I'm still wondering what university it is that offers a degree in "astrotheology." And who are the "credentialed scholars" here? Bob Price? He disses even more credentialed scholars than he is.

And then of course...



They still think I'm a six foot tall female rabbit, apparently.



Other than on the resume' on my site, no. As for the Index, not needed -- the chapter title and descriptions are sufficient, except maybe for someone with a pedantic obsession for name-trawling to see if their heroine is being flattened.



Well, maybe one day they'll actually answer some of those arguments instead of screeching.

Well that was entertaining.

[mig_killer2]

screwball for apatheist.

Well, depends what you mean by 'miracle', if there is no scientific evidence for miracles, then we have no real reason to believe they happen.

notice how he promotes the self-defeating epistemology known as "scientism".

[MarcusAndreas]

Lemme guess...some YEC moron who thinks that Spore is poisoning our kids minds?

XD
Man, that's stupid. I thought that YECs would whine about it.

[Alsharad]

http://www.theoriginalscriptures.org/

Wow, check out these nuts someone wrote me about. Pure Platinum!





I gave Neil their address....

Heh heh... I live about 20 miles from Claremore, OK. I might have to head over there and check it out.

[jpholding]

Seems to me that DJ cheapens the lives of the victims with this one:

http://debunkingchristianity.blogspo...r-11-2001.html

This is the date seven years ago that Sam Harris started writing his book, The End of Faith. At least something good came from that horrible and despicable cowardly act of terrorism.

Yeah, that was something good all right -- a poorly-argued book full of errors.

[Bill the Cat]

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The discussion with John Goddard and Mudflap's lip-flapping have been moved to the whine and rant area. http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...d.php?t=105344

***If you wish to take issue with this notice DO NOT do so in this thread.***
Contact the forum moderator or an administrator in Private Message or email instead. If you feel you must publically complain or whine, please take it to the Psychotherapy Room unless told otherwise.

[The Curtmudgeon]

AntiScrewie nomination for Sea of red (an atheist), for this posting in the Lobby:

I was reading what some atheists think of Acharya S work,and have come to the conclusion that she is nothing but a cult leader.Every time she is asked for evidence she runs for the hills,or has one of her brainwashed crazies defend her.Apparently she can't defend her self.

It sucks because so many atheists are buying this B.S,making the rest of us look stupid.Though I must say it isn't really their fault.

At least some atheists didn't accept this garbage.

Am I the only person who thinks Acharya S is a cult leader?

The (no, Sea, come on over to the non-Dark Side) Curtmudgeon

[Mountain Man]

Anyone nominated antispore.com yet?

Oh my, that's classic.

Anybody who doesn't know what Spore is can visit Spore.com. For my part, I actually really like the game. I guess that makes me a heathen.

Edit: Now that I've taken a closer look at that site, I'm almost certain it's a parody. At least I hope it is.

[Bill the Cat]

This is the craziest crap I think I've EVER seen...

I believe Jesus existed as the son of David and Bathsheba who was killed to pay for David's sin with Uriah, and he is Solomon's older brother.

Then resurrected flesh and spirit inside of the womb of Mary.

[Challenger Grim]

This is the craziest crap I think I've EVER seen...

I'm still not sure how to treat Mr Goddard at times.

[MikeWright]

Oh my, that's classic.
Edit: Now that I've taken a closer look at that site, I'm almost certain it's a parody. At least I hope it is.

Why do you think that everything you dont like is a parody? Are you really so paranoid that you think there is a hole army out there making pardoy websites?

[Chaotic Void]

Saladfingers is at it again... when I pointed out that the reason why people joined a persecuted group over other non-persecuted groups was that they tested the claims of the persecuted group and found them to be sound, he responded with:

Doh! I guess THAT'S why the Bible is just REPLETE with stories about how people made cross-country fact-seeking treks to verify the claims.

Silly me

I'd nominate his response to TolkienFan, but I'll refrain and give TF the honors of nominating WeedSalad himself.