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      Re: September 2008 SCrewballs

      Quote Originally posted by DoomRater View Post
      So JP, how does it feel to be both a Kung Fu Master AND a Godfather? XDDDDDD
      It's hard to decide whether to order Chinese or Italian.


      One of Dumplin's readers wins:

      How do you tolerate reading anything by that guy? About 2 years ago, I spent some time on Tweb debating with him and a few others, and he’s largely the reason I left. It’s like dealing with a monkey; you spend all your time avoiding the lumps of crap that he throws at you.

      Still, good stuff. This is the only atheist blog that I actually *enjoy* reading, and I say that as an atheist myself. You and I have come from similar backgrounds, I expect.
      This turns out to be "MikeWC" from here -- who was your typical fundy atheist moron who could never answer an argument.


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      Quote Originally posted by AnathemaEntropy
      Society and religion should re-evaluate stances of love/friendship.

      Mainly, both should question the signifigance [sic] of both values in a world that is increasingly favoring detachment. Individuals today are more capable of living alone and succeeding in this day and age more than any other and it is only going to increase. The situation of global warming favors individuals not procreating and not squandering resources in some worthless familial or communal traditions. Even the issue of privacy is growing to a rate that favors the individual over that of the family. In this context, such relationships are more of a hassle than anything else, humans no longer need secular or religious communities to survive.

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      Re: September 2008 SCrewballs

      Dr William Halfwit left this comment to my comment on a review of Salm's "Myth of Nazareth" where I noted Salm's errors:

      Robert Price's endorsement of Salm's book is an excellent recommendation of its accuracy. But an even better argument for its validity is that it is denounced by an apologist as incompetent and intellectually challenged as JP Holding (pseudonym), whom Farrell Till described as "a cartoon character who came to life by some as-yet-unexplained mechanism." Even scholars who had previously leaned over backward to treat Holding with respect ceased doing so as a response to his character assassination of Robert Price, a member of the Jesus Seminar whose competence even theologians acknowledge.
      I told him to come here.

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      JP, is this screwball worthy? (strikes me at least as bad as the CoC's opinion on instruments)
      http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...&postcount=108
      "if the CoC are ever unsure, they err on the side of caution. "

      If the COC is the true church (they are NOT) then how come the representative body of Christ in Earth full of knowledge from the Holy Spirit is so "UNSURE" about musical instruments?

      Salvation is not a matter of being "UNSURE" , "ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION'.

      The true church (NOT THE COC) KNOWS FOR SURE that using musical instruments is the PREFERED way that GOD wants worship.

      If God is going to send to HELL all those who use pipes and tambours why did GOD HIMSELF created them?


      Ezekiel 28:13"GOD CREATED PIPES AND TAMBOURS FOR CELEBRATION"
      "The workmanship of thy tambours and of thy pipes was in thee: in the day that thou wast created were they prepared."
      "One develops a cool and ironic sense of bitter humor, as well as a bloated ego, and this personality characteristic is the defining trait of atheists ancient and modern. If there is a meek and humble atheist or sorcerer brimming with the milk of human kindness, I have yet to meet him." -John C Wright

      "Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded- here and there, now and then- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as “bad luck.”"
      — Robert A. Heinlein

      "America's political system used to be about the pursuit of happiness. Now More and more of us want to stop chasing it and have it delivered."
      "The government cannot love you, and any politics that works on a different assumption is destined for no good."
      "Government money only pays for the "liberties" the government thinks you should have, and therefore it can determine how you exercise them. That turns liberties into privileges dispensed at the whim of the state."
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      Virgins get tossed into Volcanoes because sinners have the majority vote.

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      Re: September 2008 SCrewballs

      Quote Originally posted by MetalMark View Post
      I wonder how universalists explain away all the parables about Wailing and Gnashing of Teeth.
      They don't. The usual course of action for the Universalist is to simply ignore any scripture that contradicts their theology.
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      Quote Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      They don't. The usual course of action for the Universalist is to simply ignore any scripture that contradicts their theology.
      I have heard some say that "oh hell is just temporary, that they'll suffer for a bit and then be reconciled to Jesus.
      Examples:
      http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...&postcount=104
      http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...&postcount=113
      http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...&postcount=114
      Last edited by Challenger Grim; September 16th 2008 at 02:19 PM.
      "One develops a cool and ironic sense of bitter humor, as well as a bloated ego, and this personality characteristic is the defining trait of atheists ancient and modern. If there is a meek and humble atheist or sorcerer brimming with the milk of human kindness, I have yet to meet him." -John C Wright

      "Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded- here and there, now and then- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as “bad luck.”"
      — Robert A. Heinlein

      "America's political system used to be about the pursuit of happiness. Now More and more of us want to stop chasing it and have it delivered."
      "The government cannot love you, and any politics that works on a different assumption is destined for no good."
      "Government money only pays for the "liberties" the government thinks you should have, and therefore it can determine how you exercise them. That turns liberties into privileges dispensed at the whim of the state."
      Jonah Goldberg

      Virgins get tossed into Volcanoes because sinners have the majority vote.

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      Quote Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      They don't. The usual course of action for the Universalist is to simply ignore any scripture that contradicts their theology.
      Or redefine words like "eternal."

      Or make emotional appeals to God's looooooove.

      Or run away crying that you're too mean.

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      Re: September 2008 SCrewballs

      We're soooooo mean!!!
      Call me Mark. I like sarcasm and the surreal.

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      Re: September 2008 SCrewballs

      DJ wins for posting this:

      http://debunkingchristianity.blogspo...ament-for.html

      Never occurs to him that maybe Gushee is just an exegetical moron.

      Also, Edski wins Gold for his whole message in the slogan thread, but this really stood out:

      Quote Originally posted by Ed "I'm Talking and I Can't Shut Up" Dumbbuttski
      Moreover, in Paul's letters, our earliest sources in the N.T., the talk about "the Lord's coming" wasn't particularly well connected with the destruction of Jerusalem, nor was talk about the coming of the Lord linked to warnings to flee from Jerusalem.
      Um, gee, that's just what people in places like Thessalonoica and Corinth would need -- warnings to flee Jerusalem. Duh ah....

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      Re: September 2008 SCrewballs

      Screwball nomination for saladfingers:
      Quote Originally posted by saladfingers View Post
      What kind of changes in the whole scheme of things would there be if the Holy Spirit would have been incarnated instead of the Son. Or how about if the Father became incarnated while the Son and the Holy Spirit stayed back?
      He posted it two days ago, and I bet he's wondering why nobody has bothered responding.
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      Quote Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Screwball nomination for saladfingers:

      He posted it two days ago, and I bet he's wondering why nobody has bothered responding.
      Because they're so busy trying to figure out what would happen if beans were peas.

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      Quote Originally posted by MetalMark View Post
      We're soooooo mean!!!
      You'll spend eons in Purgatory for that.

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      Quote Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
      You'll spend eons in Purgatory for that.
      Purgatory for being mean? I could take that..

      Beats being on the Highway to Hell just because I doubt the validity of YEC, like a friend of mine thinks I am.
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      Griggsy... isn't okay in the head, is he?

      Quote Originally posted by Griggsy View Post
      How could Yahweh have resurrected His son,himelf and also the Holy Ghost, if not by the magic of let there be? So, Christians think that rational persons should accept what cannot by nature be? How could a disembodied man work , and how could there be such a mind without the body that is a brain? It takes the self-brainwashing of faith, the we just say so of credulity to accept the Resurrection.
      Why not accept the resurrection of Apollonius of Tyana? Yeshua is just another savior-god and miracle monger, a man of his times.All the religions of the Roman Empire were unique, born in a superstitious milieu. Only by force of arms and no freedom of religion could Christinsanity survive!
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      I nominate Robert Price for claiming that Paul never believed in the resurrection.

      Sure, Bob, and the Pope isn't Catholic either.
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      Quote Originally posted by MetalMark View Post
      I nominate Robert Price for claiming that Paul never believed in the resurrection.

      Sure, Bob, and the Pope isn't Catholic either.
      He's not.
      “The mystery of the incarnation of the Lord is the key to all the arcane symbolism and typology in the Scriptures, and in addition gives us knowledge of created things, both visible and intelligible. He who apprehends the mystery of the cross and the burial apprehends the inward [principles] of created things, while he who is initiated into the inexpressible power of the resurrection apprehends the purpose for which God first established everything.” -St. Maximus the Confessor

      "I would join countless numbers of evangelical Protestants and say I have come to know Christ with fulfilling and life-changing effects and daily witness His grace and leadership in my life. But just because God in His grace and mercy has met us where we are and adapted Himself to our unique cultural and religious circumstances in no way means He has abandoned His original plan. God does not contradict Himself. Truth is intolerant, and truth is found in the Church’s living and Holy Tradition. It is my growing conviction that only a strong living Tradition can protect us from the corrosive and destructive forces of modern life, the insidious and deceptive effects of modern pluralism, and the disheartening and confusing proliferation of religious opinions...What are we to do with this "cloud of witnesses," this Holy Tradition through which they live and speak with such clarity and certitude? Well, for me there seems to be only one logical response. I must turn to the Church and its sacred Tradition; I must listen humbly and be instructed. I cannot let God’s marvelous blessings of the past blind me to what I have missed or deter me from that to which He would lead me still. I must return home to Orthodoxy." Rev. Dorraine S. Snogren, The Road That Leads Home

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