September 2008 SCrewballs

[jpholding]

Wow... that kid has some issues. I can picture him writing that with a vein buldging out of his forehead.

Speaking of people with bulging forehead veins, get this from Hector "Dr. Stupid" Avalos in a comment on DJ's blog:

Dr. Helmut Koester, a professor emeritus of Harvard Divinity School, has launched a religionist tirade on The End of Biblical Studies in the latest issue of Biblical Archaeology Review (September/October 2008). It seems like the book has hit a nerve with the senior elite. I criticize Harvard Divinity School in one of my chapters.

If BAR decides not publish my response, then
I will publish it right here.

Holy coattails! When even Koester knocks you on your kiester, you're REALLY out on the fringe of the fringe!

Read more on Koester's reply at http://forbiddengospels.blogspot.com...by-helmut.html

[sc_q_jayce]

I'm confused. I can't see anything like that in the table of contents, as these are the two book reviews of Sep/Oct 2008.

The New Encyclopedia of Archaeological Excavations in the Holy Land edited by Ephraim Stern
God’s Problem by Bart Ehrman

I also see a review by John Merrill on the very book mentioned, but no mention of Dr. Helmut Koester. Explain?

[JB]

Oh yeah, now I remember. I had wanted to PM JP Koester's piece when I first read it in BAR, but I forgot. I'm gonna do that now.

It wouldn't appear in the TOC because it's just a letter in the Queries&Comments section. Doesn't appear to be available for free online, but if you're curious, you could perhaps PM me.

[jpholding]

Oh yeah, now I remember. I had wanted to PM JP Koester's piece when I first read it in BAR, but I forgot. I'm gonna do that now.

It wouldn't appear in the TOC because it's just a letter in the Queries&Comments section. Doesn't appear to be available for free online, but if you're curious, you could perhaps PM me.

It's AWESOME. Avalos' hiney is redder than DJ's was after I caught him in the blog lie.

[sc_q_jayce]

Send me a copy my way, Cornell only has a subscription to 2001, and Purdue doesn't subscribe to it at all!

[jpholding]

Prior puffballer of Dan Barker replies to my challenge to get over here:

So Dan would not debate you in a forum YOU control?

Gee, I wonder why?

Could it be because Christians are noted thieves and liars?

YEP, that may be why!

(Sure is for me)

And do not tell me Christians are not liar s and thieves as you would
only be proving your ignorance!

Stealing is where they got the "Golden Rule" and Christmas, and then
they lie about where they came from. They lie about the founding to the
US, the religion of our Founding Fathers, the principals which our
county was founded on and other things as well. (Oh yea, they also
STOLE much of their religion from other religions.)


Debate Dan in a public open place where ALL people can come, OR in a
national non religious magazine/newspaper on a non religious TV show OR
on a non religious Radio station.


ANY OPEN forum where people of ALL religious and of no religion can
listen and/or read. Not some captive audience where YOU are preaching
to your choir!


As far as my debating you about the Bible, I have more to do than debate
people who have no clue they are nothing other than either programmed
religious robots or fools whose minds are so befuddled by their religion
they are unable to use critical, logical and rational thinking skills.

Who deny there are many contradictions and evil acts committed by their
god and he/she/it's believers in the Bible when any one who is not
programmed, and/or a non-mind befuddled fool can read them for
themselves and see what I say is the truth.


Look Child, MULTI-MILLIONS OF TIMES
MORE AMERICANS HAVE LEFT THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION AND BECOME ATHEISTS THAN
HAVE GONE FROM BEING ATHEISTS TO BEING CHRISTIANS.

And the REASON they did it is they have some things you apparently DO
NOT have. Things like OPEN MINDS, the desire to Learn the TRUTH and to
BE FREE of the bondage of your stupid ass religion!


So go, as Christians (and all the other religions do) already do, feed
your [deleted] to little kids who have no idea of logic, common sense,
the world, physics, science biology, evolution and the thousands of
OTHER "gods" and the hundreds of thousands of other religions.


And Child, NO religion has ANY proof!

ALL they have is Dogma, Faith and Belief

NO PROOF!

Yep, you can continue to program babies and little kids into being
religious as it is the ONLY reason MOST people are clueless enough to be
religious in the FIRST place.

IF you actually have a semi-functioning brain, you SHOULD realize the
odds are about 99% the ONLY reason YOU do NOT believe in a DIFFERENT
religion and god is because of who raised you and where you were raised.

******

P.S. Calling me, a former Deep Sea Diver, Bouncer and Paratrooper a
"Coward" may not be a wise decision.

ADD: I found out that this guy has a "fan club"! I can't link to it because of profanity, but search for this paragraph:

Unfortunately for Mr. Reinhardt, this site is the result of many atheists (and religious people also) who consider Mr. Reinhardt to be a bad example. We, as fellow atheists, wish to make clear that Mr. Neil Reinhardt does not speak for all of us even though he often perpetuates the perception that he speaks for all of us. We do not like the bad example he sets and the reputation he brings to the millions of atheists in the world. Unless, of course, that is his intention as an agent provocateur. Many of the members of our site will be monitoring and watching Mr. Reinhardt's activities on the internet and will maintain and update this site with any new material that comes to light. Mr. Reinhardt has claimed he does not believe in Big Brother so at least we can keep an eye on him without him feeling too scrutinized.

[ApologiaPhoenix]

Oh I hope he comes here!

[jpholding]

Oh I hope he comes here!

Crud, he'd last three seconds before being banned for profanity....

[jpholding]

Another atheist he offended, The Compleat Heretic:

A search of both my personal e-mail used for this site and the e-mail used for my woefully neglected nontheistic and nonreligious pro-life/anti-abortion site, Atheist and Agnostic Pro-life League, reveals that this Guestbook entry is the only communication I have recieved from Mr. Reinhardt. While it is possible his claimed e-mails were inadvertently deleted as spam either directly from the inbox or indirectly through my spam folder, I rather doubt such is the case. I carefully review both my inbox and my bulk mail folder prior to deleting suspected spam. A legitimate name and subject line or a username like "religionsucks" would get my attention for obvious reasons and would lead me to examine the e-mail. Given the nature of this entry, I suspect Mr. Reinhardt's claimed e-mails would be prime candidates for my "Hate Mail" folder, thus I would have saved them regardless of whatever else I did with them.

Also, the abusive tone and irrational content of this entry suggests that Mr. Reinhardt is an Internet troll. The capitalization of select words, the use of an ostensibly religious argument when debating an obvious atheist, and his self-congratulatory assumption that my failure to respond to him indicates his victory in a debate which I never entered are evidence of his troll status. A Google search on "Neil C. Reinhardt" confirms him as a troll whose activities have garnered a "world wide warning." As a matter of personal policy, I do not directly engage or respond to trolls as such is a complete waste of time and merely rewards and encourages them with the attention they pathologically crave.

As I never received Mr. Reinhardt's "logical" arguments for abortion beyond his Biblical "proof" (apparently a reference to Genesis 2:7: "the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being" (NIV).), I can only assume they were no more cogent. Also, I don't know to what part of my "stupid anti-choice crap" he objected, or why he found it "ILLOGICAL," but then I have no interest in knowing or need to know as a troll's opinions are ultimately worthless.

WOW!

[jpholding]

http://www.theoriginalscriptures.org/

Wow, check out these nuts someone wrote me about. Pure Platinum!

You are probably thinking, "but that is the Name of Jesus"! This is where one of Satan's greatest victory over God's church has been! "Jesus" (stylized from the Latin name "IeSus" meaning “Son of Zeus”) is a "Sign Name" which can lead you to YAHUWshua if you study and seek the Savior! The Precious Eternal Name of YAHUWshua (YAHUWAH-theSavior) is in every original Bible text but has been hidden from the "average and casual inquirer"! We are so confident of this we will gladly refund any purchase of "The Original Scriptures" 1000% if anyone can prove to us otherwise from any original Scripture text! That's right, 1000%!

The ORIGINAL SCRIPTURES was founded by The Covenant-Family of YAHUWAH in 2005 and is located in Ur, YAraq, The Himalaya Mountains, and in Claremore, Oklahoma, USA.The western publishers are EliYAH and Malqushe, Box 1976, Claremore, Oklahoma 74018, USA. The main center of translation is safely hidden in the Himalaya Mountains, with 77 Primary Scholars along with many very valuable ancient original manuscripts, including the New Testament books (except The Revelation of YAHUWAH The MeshiYAach) in AbrAHUW, Ebrew and some Greek dating before 90 AD!

I gave Neil their address....

[jpholding]

Oh my, he found my secret!

James Patrick Holding is NOT your name

Yep, you have NO INTEGRITY!

He sweeps the Screwball category!

[DoomRater]

Apparently your name change... it's a secret to everyone.

[jpholding]

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...=114629&page=9

Yeesh. I always suspected dougofcal for idiocy, but he never said enough that I've read until now to prove it to me. His website makes it even worse...he props for Doherty's Christ-myth thesis, and makes hordes of dumb statements like this:

While Paul's Jesus was undisputably divine, Paul nowhere suggests that he thinks God and Jesus are one and the same.

Ouch. Stupid-in-a-cup.

[MarcusAndreas]

http://web.archive.org/web/200802050...ntichrist.com/

This site got taken off the net (domain expired), but the Archive has a copy. Images don't work, though.

[knight2]

Nomination to Stephen Law for arguing that the presence of miracles in the gospels cast serious doubt on whether or not Jesus existed.

Fun quote:

Conclusion, then, is - the many miracles (constituting a very substantial chunk of the text - not a few passages) in the Jesus stories mean these texts need to provide much higher quality evidence for J's existence than we possess for, say, Socrates' existence. Either that or we need some independent corroboration that J exists.

Yeah, too bad we don't have any "independent corroboration" for Jesus' existence.

And how much "higher quality" is the evidence for Jesus supposed to be? What kind of evidence is even possible for ancient people? Let's see, if we've got old documents that speak of Socrates, do we need to have DVDs of Jesus' speaking ministry? Sales receipts for food? What is this "higher quality" he speaks of?