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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Yes, but it does not explain every case.

    Making things up would not explain that.
    Yes, there is obviously more than one explanation, but none of them get to 'demons'. There's no requirement that there be a single explanation. Not sure why you're speaking as if that's not the case.


    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Your opinion is duly noted. I so appreciate skeptics telling me what I can viably believe within my worldview. The ability of Christians to exorcise demons was so far (and so obviously) beyond that of pagans that it was used as an apologetic for Christianity in the early centuries of the church.
    I didn't say 'demons' wasn't viable, only ad hoc. As in they make a useful scapegoat for general weirdness or bad behavior when no other answer is readily apparent. Sure, demons could be doing it. We have zero reason to suggest they are, though (which holds for the vast majority of cases when they're invoked).
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    Must...have...caffeine One Bad Pig's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrikature View Post
    I didn't say 'demons' wasn't viable, only ad hoc. As in they make a useful scapegoat for general weirdness or bad behavior when no other answer is readily apparent. Sure, demons could be doing it. We have zero reason to suggest they are, though (which holds for the vast majority of cases when they're invoked).
    The problem with this assertion is that exorcism is a 2,000-year-old practice. One would think that, if results were rarely apparent, the practice would have died out long ago; after all, an exorcist expects immediate results. Your 'vast majority' is pure speculation based on your a priori beliefs. That is not to say that there are not false attributions to demonic activity, but that hardly rules out the possibility that in some cases the attribution is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Nice art!

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    Wow, zombie thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertBerean View Post
    Wow, zombie thread.
    Yeah, got spam bumped. Noticed I never got around to replying to the last post.
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