Robin Hood Biden Reveals a Taste of Socialism in the Obama Economic Policy

[decoski]

Socialism
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
(source: Webster-Meriam Dictionary)

Biden: ""We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people," said Sen. Biden, D-Del. "It's time to be patriotic, time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut."

Take? Put back? Sounds like Sociali...er...income redistribution to me. Not only that, but Biden said it was "patriotic" to do so. I wonder what the patriots who conducted the Boston Tea Party would have said about that statement.

[NathanDavid]

It is!

I just wonder this, since the current administration has had to do the inevitable, and bail out so many finance and insurance companies, why do the demoncrats still hate Bush? You would almost think that the bail out has backed the demoncrats up a few paces...

[rogue06]

Socialism
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
(source: Webster-Meriam Dictionary)

Biden: ""We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people," said Sen. Biden, D-Del. "It's time to be patriotic, time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut."

Take? Put back? Sounds like Sociali...er...income redistribution to me. Not only that, but Biden said it was "patriotic" to do so. I wonder what the patriots who conducted the Boston Tea Party would have said about that statement.

If, as Biden seems to be implying here, the paying of high taxes is patriotic, then wouldn't Obama's claim he's going to lower taxes for 95% of Americans be seen as an attempt to undermine the patriotism of 95% of Americans?

[Pilgrim]

Socialism
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
(source: Webster-Meriam Dictionary)

Biden: ""We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people," said Sen. Biden, D-Del. "It's time to be patriotic, time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut."

Take? Put back? Sounds like Sociali...er...income redistribution to me. Not only that, but Biden said it was "patriotic" to do so. I wonder what the patriots who conducted the Boston Tea Party would have said about that statement.

Funny how you don't care when the taking from is from you and me both and into the pockets of the oil companies in the form of subsidies for the richest. Please.

And I bet you love the government take over announced today with a 5000 billion dollar price tag to bail out all those rich fat cats who couldn't keep their companies on track and took bad risks. Yeah, you're perfectly ok with the money out of your pocket going to AIG.

[Pilgrim]

If, as Biden seems to be implying here, the paying of high taxes is patriotic, then wouldn't Obama's claim he's going to lower taxes for 95% of Americans be seen as an attempt to undermine the patriotism of 95% of Americans?

That's not his claim and I think if you read it again you'd see that. His claim is that its patriotic to be willing to work hard and ante up when called upon to do so. Not a popular message I'll grant you. We want to hold on to our treasure so badly that we'll fight any thing that suggests we give it up.

[decoski]

Funny how you don't care when the taking from is from you and me both and into the pockets of the oil companies in the form of subsidies for the richest. Please.

And I bet you love the government take over announced today with a 5000 billion dollar price tag to bail out all those rich fat cats who couldn't keep their companies on track and took bad risks. Yeah, you're perfectly ok with the money out of your pocket going to AIG.

Nice try. I blew a gasket when the government got into the business of bailing out companies without them providing accountability in exchange. Bush and co. was wrong in doing so, in my opinion. Your first sentence is laughable. It is right out of the tired ol' liberal mantra we hear all the time. Spare me and come up with your own lines next time. Thanks.

[Pilgrim]

Do I understand that correctly then: taking tax money from your pockets to give to social services serving the poor or disabled is bad and theft, taking tax money from your pockets to give subsidies to multimillion dollar corporations ok?

[rogue06]

That's not his claim and I think if you read it again you'd see that. His claim is that its patriotic to be willing to work hard and ante up when called upon to do so. Not a popular message I'll grant you. We want to hold on to our treasure so badly that we'll fight any thing that suggests we give it up.

My comment was meant tongue-in-cheek, but seriously I think they are asking some Americans to work harder and pay more while telling others to relax, take it easy and enjoy the free ride. And that, you are correct, is not a popular message amongst those who produce but I'm sure it is well received by those who take.

[Darth Executor]

Do I understand that correctly then: taking tax money from your pockets to give to social services serving the poor or disabled is bad and theft, taking tax money from your pockets to give subsidies to multimillion dollar corporations ok?

This isn't even illiteracy anymore, it's just plain stupidity.

[decoski]

Do I understand that correctly then: taking tax money from your pockets to give to social services serving the poor or disabled is bad and theft, taking tax money from your pockets to give subsidies to multimillion dollar corporations ok?

Stop with the mantras. How about this: Quit taking money that people earn and let the PEOPLE give to the poor and disabled. I, unlike you, trust that through a free market - allowing people decide how to spend their money - will end up serving everybody better than what daddy government can distribute. Supply side economics works for obvious reasons which you apparently cannot fathom.

[rogue06]

When we bail out a business we get something in exchange. Something that can be sold. Several economists claim the government actually turned a profit in the S&L bail outs. And in other cases those bailed out pay us back (Chrysler comes to mind). Has this ever been the case with welfare?

[Pilgrim]

When we bail out a business we get something in exchange. Something that can be sold. Several economists claim the government actually turned a profit in the S&L bail outs. And in other cases those bailed out pay us back (Chrysler comes to mind). Has this ever been the case with welfare?

That's a fair point. (And thanks for the moderate tone in your post unlike some of the others.) I guess the answer depends on what the pay back you want is.

[Pilgrim]

Stop with the mantras. How about this: Quit taking money that people earn and let the PEOPLE give to the poor and disabled. I, unlike you, trust that through a free market - allowing people decide how to spend their money - will end up serving everybody better than what daddy government can distribute. Supply side economics works for obvious reasons which you apparently cannot fathom.

So in other words I did hear you correctly. You're ok with taking money as long as it's not given to the poor and disabled. You want that privledge yourself.

[decoski]

So in other words I did hear you correctly. You're ok with taking money as long as it's not given to the poor and disabled. You want that privledge yourself.

No you are hearing what you want to hear. Hear this: Charity should be out of the heart, not by coersion. Taxation is not even Constitutional. It's too bad that Ron Paul didn't become President. He would have deprogrammed those of you who think that the government is the solution to everything.

[Faramir]

I don't like the title of the thread. Robin Hood is an "everymans" hero.

To the Liberals, he is champion of redistributing the wealth from the rich to poor.

To the conservative, he is champion of returning tax money taken by a corrupt government to the hard working citizens who earned it in the first place.

You can't lose with this guy.