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Originally posted by 37818 View PostAgain, you do not know what you are talking about. Yes, I understand you think you do.
Jesus explains His deliberate limitation and why, "It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power." Acts 1:7.
They are the very same God, not the same persons. Until you know God, even if you grasp three distinct Persons being the same God, . . .
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Originally posted by Same Hakeem View PostJesus denied to know his second coming hour or day and limited such knowledge to "ONLY THE FATHER" in Matthew 24:36.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostAs Jesus explained, ". . . the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power." Acts 1:7.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat passage doesn't really say what you posted. It says that the son does whatever the father does. How can the two be one the same being if the one can act/create apart from the other, at that others direction?. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostAs Jesus explained, ". . . the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power." Acts 1:7.
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostThey are the same God not the same Persons. Person does not mean a god.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostThey are the same God not the same Persons. Person does not mean a god.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post. . . Jesus Christ is considered God incarnate, and in heaven is seated on the right hand of God.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWell, Jesus, the son, would be considered one third of god incarnate. I wonder if all three, the father the son and the holy ghost could be incarnate at the same time and could actually speak to one another, human face to human face. Or maybe all 3 could occupy one and the same human body. That'd be wierd. Kinda schizophrenic. Would they still be one god if all 3 persons came down to earth and occupied each a distinct body? Wait a minute, if the trinitarian god, the father, son and the holy ghost, occupied three distinct human bodies, how then could that god be omnipresent? I don't know man, that sure is some strange stuff. I just can't make heads or tails of it.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYou "just can't make heads or tails of it" for the good reason it is utterly contradictory nonsense. Or, as the Church likes to see it, a divine mystery. But it took three centuries to conclude that the one God is a three-in-one deity containing three equally divine “persons”, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostPersonhood and deity are not the same concept. From a prespective of awareness God's awereness is like that of infinite persons not just three of the Biblical three persons.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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It is agreed that the Father is only true God according to Jesus own words in John 17:1-3.
Jesus CANNOT be God because Jesus sat with the Father on his throne in Rev 3:21 so if the Father is God and God is one, Jesus CANNOT be God; otherwise, there were two Gods siting on throne in Rev 3:21.
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