That is not really true at all. In islam’s polemics you have the so-called “descent of the koran” & the internal theological jargon in Arabic is ‘nuzul al-koran’ or ‘the coming down of Allah’s word (kalam) to become a book or recitation’.
Koran claims in sura 17/105 – 106 that it ‘was sent down from heaven’: ‘We sent down the Quran in truth, and in truth has it descended: and we sent you but to give glad tidings..it is a Quran which we have divided (into parts to him), in order that you might recite it to men at intervals.’
Here, the koran only mimics and copies from the Gospel of John chapter 3:13 centuries earlier, in which the Son of God was also the Logos (Arabic Kalimatullah) that descended and came down from heaven:
‘No one has ever gone into heaven except THE ONE who came down from heaven–the Son of Man’ – John 3:13.
Jesus also said in John 6:51: “I am the living bread that CAME DOWN from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever.”
“And the Word (Logos) became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.” John 1:14.
The celebrated Muslim scholar, Syed Hossein Nasr agrees with this when he said: ‘The Word of God in Islam is the Quran; in Christianity it is Jesus Christ. The vehicle of the Divine Message in Christianity is the Virgin Mary; in Islam it is the soul of the Prophet.’
‘Only a miracle can save us. Our Savior is a book in Islam. The human vehicle of a divine Message must be pure and untainted..the pure and ‘untouched’ tablet of human receptivity.’
Syed Hossein Nasr, Ideals and Realities of Islam, London: Allen & Unwin (1989), p.43-44.
The incarnation of the Jesus Christ is not at all ridiculous to Syed Hossein Nasr. He calls Jesus Christ “the Divine Message” itself (not a ‘book’ called the Gospel or ‘Injil’). And the vehicle for its advent and arrival “is the Virgin Mary,” THAT is the description of the Incarnation itself from a learned Muslim and scholar like Syed Hossein.
You condemn your own ‘nuzul-al-koran’ – the so-called ‘descent of the koran’- as equally ridiculous and nonsensical by thoughtlessly claiming the Incarnation as ‘ridiculous’, siam - and you are not even half a muslim scholar as Syed Hossein Nasr, who correctly acknowledges these as two parallel concepts.
So, think before you blurt!
Koran claims in sura 17/105 – 106 that it ‘was sent down from heaven’: ‘We sent down the Quran in truth, and in truth has it descended: and we sent you but to give glad tidings..it is a Quran which we have divided (into parts to him), in order that you might recite it to men at intervals.’
Here, the koran only mimics and copies from the Gospel of John chapter 3:13 centuries earlier, in which the Son of God was also the Logos (Arabic Kalimatullah) that descended and came down from heaven:
‘No one has ever gone into heaven except THE ONE who came down from heaven–the Son of Man’ – John 3:13.
Jesus also said in John 6:51: “I am the living bread that CAME DOWN from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever.”
“And the Word (Logos) became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.” John 1:14.
The celebrated Muslim scholar, Syed Hossein Nasr agrees with this when he said: ‘The Word of God in Islam is the Quran; in Christianity it is Jesus Christ. The vehicle of the Divine Message in Christianity is the Virgin Mary; in Islam it is the soul of the Prophet.’
‘Only a miracle can save us. Our Savior is a book in Islam. The human vehicle of a divine Message must be pure and untainted..the pure and ‘untouched’ tablet of human receptivity.’
Syed Hossein Nasr, Ideals and Realities of Islam, London: Allen & Unwin (1989), p.43-44.
The incarnation of the Jesus Christ is not at all ridiculous to Syed Hossein Nasr. He calls Jesus Christ “the Divine Message” itself (not a ‘book’ called the Gospel or ‘Injil’). And the vehicle for its advent and arrival “is the Virgin Mary,” THAT is the description of the Incarnation itself from a learned Muslim and scholar like Syed Hossein.
You condemn your own ‘nuzul-al-koran’ – the so-called ‘descent of the koran’- as equally ridiculous and nonsensical by thoughtlessly claiming the Incarnation as ‘ridiculous’, siam - and you are not even half a muslim scholar as Syed Hossein Nasr, who correctly acknowledges these as two parallel concepts.
So, think before you blurt!
Originally posted by siam
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