The Afterlife

[Tanakh Keeper]

I thought you just said that God didn't think it was important? If that is so, then why did God instruct Moses, and why did Moses instruct the Elders, who apparently thought it important enough to write down in the Talmud but not in the Bible?

Something seems a bit fishy to me.

I think that it's only "fishy" to you, since the afterlife is such a major part of your religion. Yall believe in two completely different eternal destinations. Since my religion only has one eternal destination, it is of lesser importance. We will all get there eventually.

I gave my opinion regarding G-d's teachings. I wasn't speaking for G-d. I THINK that if G-d considered it of major importance, then the afterlife would be mentioned in the bible explicitly and in great detail. But it isn't.

Consider that the prohibition against idol worship is mentioned dozens of times in the bible. Obviously, not worshipping an idol is an important teaching of G-d's.

[John Goddard]

After death of the body, the soul goes to Gehenom. Gehenom can be described as a spiritual laundry. For up to 12 months, the soul goes through a purification process. Rabbi Eliyahu Dessler uses an analogy of this process as the soul being shown two videos. Each soul watches the videos with all of that person’s loved ones. The first video could be called “This is Your Life!”. Every decision, thought, and deed is replayed without any edits. It is fully bared for all to see. Think of how embarrassing that is.

Years ago I had an experience that confirmed all this, before I really even knew anything about the Bible. It's mainly why I believe in Purgatory today, Days of Awe are also telling of the actual process.

[Sparko]

I think that it's only "fishy" to you, since the afterlife is such a major part of your religion. Yall believe in two completely different eternal destinations. Since my religion only has one eternal destination, it is of lesser importance. We will all get there eventually.

according to your Talmud but not your bible.

I gave my opinion regarding G-d's teachings. I wasn't speaking for G-d. I THINK that if G-d considered it of major importance, then the afterlife would be mentioned in the bible explicitly and in great detail. But it isn't.

1. It IS in the bible, just not the old testament. God thought it was important enough to send his son down to tell us about it himself.
2. If it was not important, then why did God tell Moses about it in the first place? You said he told Moses and Moses told the writers of the Talmud. Seems like they thought it was important if they wrote it down.

God also thought sin was important enough that he gave the Isrealites Laws and Sacrifices to forgive sins. Why did he need to do that if the afterlife was not important and everyone was going to heaven anyway? Why did they need sacrifices to forgive sin if all sin is going to be forgiven anyway? Seems a waste.



By the way can you give me links to the Talmud (in english) where it talks about it? I find it facinating and want to read it for myself.

[sylvius]

1. It IS in the bible, just not the old testament. God thought it was important enough to send his son down to tell us about it himself.

Where in NT does it tell about "afterlife"?

I thought it told "death doesn't exist" , 1Corinthians 15:51-57

According to John 11:25-26,

Jesus told her, "I am the resurrection and the life; whoever believes in me, even if he dies, will live, and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die; DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? "

It is Torah-based knowledge.

[Sparko]

Where in NT does it tell about "afterlife"?

its a term that refers to life after our life on earth.





Hebrews 9:27
Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment,

[sylvius]

its a term that refers to life after our life on earth.

You mean after we left in space-ships, or what?

Hebrews 9:27
Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment,

Which once more proves that Hebrews was written by an impostor ...

[Tanakh Keeper]

according to your Talmud but not your bible.

1. It IS in the bible, just not the old testament. ... (xian stuff removed)

By the way can you give me links to the Talmud (in english) where it talks about it? I find it facinating and want to read it for myself.

Sparko

You seem to have missed that this is the JUDAISM thread. When I say the bible, I mean the Tanakh, not your Greek Testament.

I'm not aware of any accurate online translations of the Talmud into the English language.

[Sparko]

Sparko

You seem to have missed that this is the JUDAISM thread. When I say the bible, I mean the Tanakh, not your Greek Testament.

I'm not aware of any accurate online translations of the Talmud into the English language.

which talmud are you speaking about then?

[John Goddard]

which talmud are you speaking about then?

Jewish Encyclopedia has a lot of references to Gehenna in the Talmud.

[Tanakh Keeper]

which talmud are you speaking about then?

What do you mean?

[Sparko]

What do you mean?

which Talmud are you getting the information from? The Babylonian Talmud written in AD 600 or the Jerusalem/Palestinian Talmud written in AD 400?

and how did Moses teach them this stuff about the afterlife 3,000 years after he died so they could write it down?

http://www.answers.com/topic/talmud

The information in the Talmud comes from G-d instructing Moses who then taught the Elders who taught Israel. It contains the sages' commentaries on those instructions

[John Goddard]

which Talmud are you getting the information from? The Babylonian Talmud written in AD 600 or the Jerusalem/Palestinian Talmud written in AD 400?

and how did Moses teach them this stuff about the afterlife 3,000 years after he died so they could write it down?

http://www.answers.com/topic/talmud

Things Moses told Israelites living with him, passed down by oral tradition.

[Sparko]

Things Moses told Israelites living with him, passed down by oral tradition.

why didnt they bother to write it down then? they wrote down the scriptures, the laws, and everything else. So how do we know they kept the oral tradition regarding the afterlife correct for 3000 years before they decided to write it down?

conveniently AFTER Christianity was on the scene by the way.

[John Goddard]

why didnt they bother to write it down then? they wrote down the scriptures, the laws, and everything else. So how do we know they kept the oral tradition regarding the afterlife correct for 3000 years before they decided to write it down?

conveniently AFTER Christianity was on the scene by the way.

I don't know. Some of it like Gehenna I accept.

Other parts of it seem like Santa and the Easter Bunny are to Christianity.

[Sparko]

actually I was quite a bit off. It was about 1500 years, not 3000. but still a big gap.