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Paleo diet - Bad News
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostYou will have to document your statement about brown rice being toxic???, because I have no references where this is so.
Primal humans of Africa did not have potatoes, white rice, sugar, or corn and they were not lacking of energy for their intensive life style of hunting and foraging for food. They did had have the tubers, whole wild grains, and meat and fish from the rivers, lakes and oceans.
The question here is what in reality was the Paleo-Diet.
the problem of Diabetes is not only the disease itself, but the prevalence of disease within a population as well as obesity. The higher in white carbs the higher in Diabetes and obesity is universal.
I went on the Keto diet a while back (high fat, low carbs) and I had to force myself to eat more than a thousand calories a day.
When Chinese diets changed in the 1980s and 1990s the Diabetes and obesity increased to equivalent to the USA. Before it was less than 1% of the population. The change was in the higher consumption of white carbs and meat. When I moved there in 1999 there were about 6 fast food restaurants like MacDonald's, now there are tens of thousands.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2228rank.html
I wouldn't be surprised if Asian rice-rich diets made them better able to handle the carbpocalypse.Last edited by Darth Executor; 01-20-2014, 03:03 PM."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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My diet is food. It has gotten me through 72 years and I am still kicking. For me basic diet is meat, vegetables and bread. I don't follow any fad diets, though I am on high protein and moderate carbs.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Darth Executor;1966 China has one of the lowest obesity rates in the world. It's down there with starving Africans/South Asians.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Asian rice-rich diets made them better able to handle the carbpocalypse.
[cite = http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1079476/] China used to be known for her slender people; I never saw a fat person in China until very recently.2 Now China is fighting obesity, especially childhood obesity, just like the rest of the world. According to the latest statistics from China, the proportion of obesity among children under the age of 15 increased from 15% in 1982 to 27% today.3 Among the predisposing factors for increasing prevalence of childhood obesity in China, fast food and physical inactivity are the two most important. Because of the efficient advertisements of such fast food giants in the United States as McDonald's and Kentucky Fried Chicken, Chinese children are devouring the American fast food faster than ever.2,4 All of the children in China recognize the image of Ronald McDonald, even though they might not be able to read English. [/cite]
~27% is roughly equivalent to the USA.
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
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That sounds like the best take on it, shunya. All in all, diets are good as a proxy for shared social interests or participation in the latest fads, but if you actually need to get healthy, exercise is the first individual priority for beating the flabbening effects of over-civilization. (Your relative skill and strength level may require you to exercise alone, but never diet alone, if only for the fact that shared misery is the only defensible type.)
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Originally posted by Epoetker View Postbut if you actually need to get healthy, exercise is the first individual priority for beating the flabbening effects of over-civilization."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View Posthttps://www.google.ca/#q=brown+rice+toxic
I went on the Keto diet a while back (high fat, low carbs) and I had to force myself to eat more than a thousand calories a day.
A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
George Bernard Shaw
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Originally posted by Truthseeker View PostLow carb diets are good. Some kinds of fat are healthy; more calories should be from fats than carbs. Also need plenty of protein.
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Originally posted by Truthseeker View PostI should have linked to the Mayo Clinic website http://www.mayoclinic.org/mediterran...t/art-20047801
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostFirst the Paleo Diet is not true diet of humans and our immediate ancestors of Africa. I will provide some references, but the short version is: From analyzing bone and teeth of our ancestors , roughly their diet was mostly meat, including fish, and wild whole grains of the African Savannah,. Foraged (10 - 20%) wild fruit, tubers, and insects made up the balance. Days without meat were common, therefore a periodic fasting was a part of their life style. Our relatives the Neanderthals did have a diet of 80 to 90% Big game meat. More later on Paleo Diet.
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