Why is the Lamb silent?

[faithymom]

Since God has revealed himself as a Trinity, then you don't believe in any god but the one of your own making.

[Manwë Súlimo]

Since God has revealed himself as a Trinity, then you don't believe in any god but the one of your own making.

<Sarcasm>

Get that disgusting cult-speak outta here lest you muddle the minds of our children!

This is a fair warning to those sarcastically impaired the preceding text was written in jest.

[Manwë Súlimo]

No, it doesn't suck for me because I don't believe in a "three-in-one God."

Ouch, you must tell me the exact magnitude of the suckage you must experience for shunning the truth in favor of a lie.

[IncRus]

No, it doesn't suck for me because I don't believe in a "three-in-one God."

Ouch, you must tell me the exact magnitude of the suckage you must experience for shunning the truth in favor of a lie.

The "three-in-one God" is the lie. You know that, don;t you?

[IncRus]

Since God has revealed himself as a Trinity, then you don't believe in any god but the one of your own making.

You say "God revealed himself as a Trinity." Which one? Are you referring to your God who revealed himself as a MAN and identified HIS Father as the ONLY true God?

[Manwë Súlimo]

The "three-in-one God" is the lie. You know that, don;t you?

Hahaha, that's a good joke. You should look into stand-up. That was so fu--- oh, you were serious...

You say "God revealed himself as a Trinity." Which one? Are you referring to your God who revealed himself as a MAN and identified HIS Father as the ONLY true God?

Have you ever heard of 'functional subordination'?

[faithymom]

You say "God revealed himself as a Trinity." Which one? Are you referring to your God who revealed himself as a MAN and identified HIS Father as the ONLY true God?

I'm referring to the ONLY God. Who has revealed Himself in the Scriptures.
His inspired word says that there is only one God.
It also says that the Father is God.
It says the Son is God.
It says the Holy Spirit is God.
Yet it is emphatic that there is only one God.

This leaves a few options:
1) God is lying when He proclaimed there is "no other God besides me"
2) He is lying when He says the Father, Son, and/or Holy Spirit are God
3) The Scripture we have is unreliable and there is no way to know what God actually wanted to say to us.
or 4) The Living God consists of the 3 persons that He revealed to us through the Scripture.


If we choose option1 or 2 we have a God who lies and cannot be trusted.
If we choose option 3 we are forced to toss out the Bible as we know it and we must acknowledge that we don't know what or how much was changed in Scripture or what is actually "God-breathed and useful for teaching" so we have zero certainty of ever knowing what God requires.
If we choose option 4 we have a concept that makes sense of what the Scripture actually says!!! When actually understood, the Trinity solves the seeming disparity between God saying He is One God and God also saying that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.

So if you believe that God's word will not pass away and that it is useful for teaching, rebuking, and correcting, then this is what it clearly and repeatedly shows us: God exists in Tri-unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
If you are adamant in saying that God's Word has been corrupted and can no longer be trusted, then you must toss the entirety of it out since we have absolutely no idea what was changed and what was not.

[IncRus]

Have you ever heard of 'functional subordination'?

Functional subordination???? You trinitarians never run out of words or phrases to rationalize your FALSE cultic beliefs.

[Sparko]

is Incrus for real or just a troll?

[IncRus]

You say "God revealed himself as a Trinity." Which one? Are you referring to your God who revealed himself as a MAN and identified HIS Father as the ONLY true God?

I'm referring to the ONLY God. Who has revealed Himself in the Scriptures.
His inspired word says that there is only one God.
It also says that the Father is God.
It says the Son is God.
It says the Holy Spirit is God.
Yet it is emphatic that there is only one God.

Of course the word of God is truly emphatic that there is ONLY ONE true God (Isaiah 45:6; 46:9) and the ONLY ONE true God is the Father (Isaiah 63:16; 44:8; John 17:3).

However, where in the Bible can we find that the Father is God, the Son is God AND the Holy Spirit is God, yet these three Gods are "ONLY ONE God?" The answer is NONE!

This leaves a few options:
1) God is lying when He proclaimed there is "no other God besides me"
2) He is lying when He says the Father, Son, and/or Holy Spirit are God
3) The Scripture we have is unreliable and there is no way to know what God actually wanted to say to us.
or 4) The Living God consists of the 3 persons that He revealed to us through the Scripture.

If we choose option1 or 2 we have a God who lies and cannot be trusted.
If we choose option 3 we are forced to toss out the Bible as we know it and we must acknowledge that we don't know what or how much was changed in Scripture or what is actually "God-breathed and useful for teaching" so we have zero certainty of ever knowing what God requires.
If we choose option 4 we have a concept that makes sense of what the Scripture actually says!!! When actually understood, the Trinity solves the seeming disparity between God saying He is One God and God also saying that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.

1. Option # 1 is FALSE because God was NOT lying when He said, " there is no God besides me." God says He is NOT a MAN that he should lie (Num. 23:19).

2. Option # 2 is likewise FALSE because God NEVER said that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost ARE God.

3. Option # 3 is also FALSE because it is NOT true that the Scripture we have is unreliable and there is no way to know what God actually wanted to say to us.

On the CONTRARY, the Scripture is surely RELIABLE despite apparent MISTRANSLATIONS because we have a way of knowing what God actually wanted to say to us by "COMPARING spiritual things with spiritual as the Holy Spirit teaches" (1 Cor. 2:13).

4. Option # 4 is even more FALSE because there is NOT a single verse in the whole Bible that says the living God consists of 3 persons.

So if you believe that God's word will not pass away and that it is useful for teaching, rebuking, and correcting, then this is what it clearly and repeatedly shows us: God exists in Tri-unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

What you are saying is NOT true! I dare you to show a single verse that CLEARLY and EXPLICITLY tell us that God exists in Tri-unity of Father, Son AND Holy Spirit.

If you are adamant in saying that God's Word has been corrupted and can no longer be trusted, then you must toss the entirety of it out since we have absolutely no idea what was changed and what was not.

Why would I say that God's word has been corrupted and can no longer be trusted when I know what was changed and what was not?

I'm glad you admit that you have "absolutely no idea what was changed and what was not." That only shows that you are a "natural man." And the "natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" (1 Cor. 2:14).

[Manwë Súlimo]

Functional subordination???? You trinitarians never run out of words or phrases to rationalize your FALSE cultic beliefs.

Yea, we're just a wellspring of logic and reasoning. Its a shame that the deluded such as yourselves can't comprehend it.

So, when are you going to debunk functional subordination? Or will you continue to ignore it because you can't?

[IncRus]

Yea, we're just a wellspring of logic and reasoning. Its a shame that the deluded such as yourselves can't comprehend it.

So, when are you going to debunk functional subordination? Or will you continue to ignore it because you can't?

Functional subordination, whatever that means, is like a ghost. It does not exist. Why waste time debunking something that does not exist?

[Manwë Súlimo]

Functional subordination, whatever that means, is like a ghost. It does not exist. Why waste time debunking something that does not exist?

Oh wow, you make this too easy for me. All that above drivel is pure, unadulterated assertion. It is a fallacy. "Functional subordination is false because its false, darn it!" That's not going to fly.

Prove that it is false.

[IncRus]

Oh wow, you make this too easy for me. All that above drivel is pure, unadulterated assertion. It is a fallacy. "Functional subordination is false because its false, darn it!" That's not going to fly.

Prove that it is false.

Jesus said the Father SENT him. Jesus said he proceeded forth and came FROM God.

Jesus said he can of himself do NOTHING. Jesus said the Father is GREATER than him.

Jesus said of his coming NOBODY knows, NOT even the Son but the Father ONLY.

What functional subordination are you talking about?

Jesus is subordinate to God the Father in everything because he is a MAN (John 8:40) - NOT the Almighty God..

[Manwë Súlimo]

What functional subordination are you talking about?

Still obvious you have no idea what you're talking about, since this is what functional subordination answers. I'm not doing your homework for you. Go study it a bit and come back to me .