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    RC Church = Whore of Babylon, and that sort of stuff.

    When I was a new Xian back in the '80s, I used to hear a lot of that, mainly from the Fundies in my circle of friends at college. They really seemed to push those beliefs at my then-girlfriend's CMA church, especially when there was a "Prophecy Conference."

    In the late '90s, I was told by seemingly well informed people at two reputable Internet discussion venues that back in the days of the Reformation, the beliefs that the Pope was the Antichrist and the RC Church was the Whore of Babylon were at least semi-official for Protestantism as a whole.

    1) Is that true?

    2) What about the OC? What did the Reformers believe about that branch of Xianity?
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    My understanding is that the Reformers thought about Eastern Orthodoxy even less than they thought about the Epistle of James.

    I don't know whether or to what degree the reformers thought of the Catholic Church as the WoB in an eschatological sense. That is, I'm pretty sure they frequently referred to the RCC as the WoB, but whether that was just a rheteorical excess by e.g. Luther or if they thought the RCC was the complete fulfillment of WoB in Revelation, I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    My understanding is that the Reformers thought about Eastern Orthodoxy even less than they thought about the Epistle of James.
    That depends on the Reformer. Luther entered into discussions with the EOC that went a couple rounds before they politely asked him to stop. Jan Huss' brother was baptized EO - they found his baptismal certificate a few years ago.
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    have you seen Jack Chick tracts?

    The Death Cookie!

    http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0074/0074_01.asp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    have you seen Jack Chick tracts?
    Oh yeah! And the full-size comic books. There were some for sale in my ex-girlfriend's church foyer, and a bunch in the Christian bookstore a few miles away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorrinRadd View Post
    Oh yeah! And the full-size comic books. There were some for sale in my ex-girlfriend's church foyer, and a bunch in the Christian bookstore a few miles away.
    I usually ran across them left atop toilets in public bathrooms. In some ways it seemed fitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    I usually ran across them left atop toilets in public bathrooms. In some ways it seemed fitting.
    Did you flush them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    have you seen Jack Chick tracts?

    The Death Cookie!

    http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0074/0074_01.asp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    have you seen Jack Chick tracts?

    The Death Cookie!

    http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0074/0074_01.asp
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    And who could forget Alexander Hislop's Two Babylons. Talk about shoddy research for its time but it had an impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReformedApologist View Post
    And who g forget Alexander Hislop's Two Babylons. Talk about shoddy research for its time but it had an impact.
    It still sells - and has been translated into German, French, Spanish, and (most recently ?) Russian.

    None of which stops it being…not exactly good scholarship. Thanks to AH, a lot of people have wildly inaccurate notions about Ancient Mesopotamian religion/culture. Thanks in large part to the popularisation of “best bits” of it by Jack Chick.

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