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      Screwball to stupidity.
      Call me Mark. I like sarcasm and the surreal.

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      Quote Originally posted by MetalMark View Post
      Screwball to stupidity.
      That's a given.

      What stupidity are you referring to?
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      Quote Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      I see no reason why a Christian should feel compelled to extend such a "common courtesy" to a heretic, and in fact there is merit in deliberately not using the title or constructing a mocking variation of it (such as "his hokey-ness" though I'm sure someone could come up with something better).
      How about "His Hoariness?"
      “The mystery of the incarnation of the Lord is the key to all the arcane symbolism and typology in the Scriptures, and in addition gives us knowledge of created things, both visible and intelligible. He who apprehends the mystery of the cross and the burial apprehends the inward [principles] of created things, while he who is initiated into the inexpressible power of the resurrection apprehends the purpose for which God first established everything.” -St. Maximus the Confessor

      "I would join countless numbers of evangelical Protestants and say I have come to know Christ with fulfilling and life-changing effects and daily witness His grace and leadership in my life. But just because God in His grace and mercy has met us where we are and adapted Himself to our unique cultural and religious circumstances in no way means He has abandoned His original plan. God does not contradict Himself. Truth is intolerant, and truth is found in the Church’s living and Holy Tradition. It is my growing conviction that only a strong living Tradition can protect us from the corrosive and destructive forces of modern life, the insidious and deceptive effects of modern pluralism, and the disheartening and confusing proliferation of religious opinions...What are we to do with this "cloud of witnesses," this Holy Tradition through which they live and speak with such clarity and certitude? Well, for me there seems to be only one logical response. I must turn to the Church and its sacred Tradition; I must listen humbly and be instructed. I cannot let God’s marvelous blessings of the past blind me to what I have missed or deter me from that to which He would lead me still. I must return home to Orthodoxy." Rev. Dorraine S. Snogren, The Road That Leads Home

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      Re: December 2008 Screwballs

      I was referring to stupidity in general.
      Call me Mark. I like sarcasm and the surreal.

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      Quote Originally posted by MetalMark View Post
      I was referring to stupidity in general.
      Just for that I'm giving you a demotion from Captain Obvious to Staff Sergeant Obvious (that's one heck of a demotion BTW)

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      Quote Originally posted by mig_killer2 View Post
      Just for that I'm giving you a demotion from Captain Obvious to Staff Sergeant Obvious (that's one heck of a demotion BTW)
      URGENT NEWS FLASH: Being demoted is a bad thing.

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      Do you know the reach of their thought? Or do you think, perhaps, that their thought is upon you, and that they may shield you from afar?'

      'I know not,' said Húrin. 'Yet so it might be, if they willed. For the Elder King shall not be dethroned while Arda endures.'

      The Words of Húrin and Morgoth, "The Children of Húrin" by J.R.R. Tolkien

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      Re: December 2008 Screwballs

      Quote Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Yeah, heretic was the wrong word. How about blasphemer?
      Yes, that'll work.

      Depends on what you mean by "good".
      Not "good" as in righteous before God, but overall decent person. And he's tried to free his country for a long time now (not good in and of itself, but certainly not bad either...).

      The funny thing is, that he might not even be considered holy by Theravada Buddhists. I don't know, but since he's a major figure in Mahayana Buddhism (which makes a much bigger deal about gods, spirits and Bodhisattvas than Theravada does) it seems probable to me.
      People aren't moral and rational because some sort of religion or atheism has automatically put that moral or rational thinking in them; people are moral and rational because they are the image of a loving and wise God.

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      Re: December 2008 Screwballs

      O.K., this one seriously left my head spinning:
      Quote Originally posted by Clubbaseal View Post
      The so-called "laws of logic" have not shown a great deal of merit for me. I see no reason to hold onto them. There's no need to form any kind of belief. Not that that's denying them. Hey, if someone uses them better than I do in a proper technique, I have no problem with that. I don't need to form a rally to strike them from the books, or denounce them as blasphemous and immoral. They just don't hold great value for me. I tested them, at your request, but they haven't shown enough relevance to my life that I need to form any kind of judgment at all.
      Last edited by Mountain Man; December 4th 2008 at 09:47 AM.
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      Re: December 2008 Screwballs

      Screwball nomination for this pair of clueless liberal journos who are baffled that Obama's election didn't bring peace on earth and good will towards men:

      ALEX WITT: You know, John, and it’s interesting because there are many who had such an optimstic and hopeful opinion of things, and you certainly can’t expect things to change [snaps fingers] on a dime overnight, but there are many who suggested that with the outgoing Bush administration and the incoming Obama administration there would be something of a lull in terrorism attacks. There had been such a global outpouring of affection, respect, hope, with the new administration coming in, that precisely these kinds of attacks, it was thought — at least hoped — would be dampered down. But in this case it looks like Barack Obama is getting a preview of things to come.

      JOHN YANG: He’s — it’s a rude awakening, a very, sort of, sober reminder of what he’s going to be facing in just a few weeks.

      http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-no...nded-terrorism


      Anybody who calls this a "rude awakening" hasn't been paying attention for the last several decades.
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      Quote Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Screwball nomination for this pair of clueless liberal journos who are baffled that Obama's election didn't bring peace on earth and good will towards men:
      Oh my. The At-Large Platinum noms just got a late entry...

      http://www.tektoonics.com

      Due to rampant stupidity by Skeptics, and time issues, I'm only going to be on TWeb in my own (tektonics.org) section from now on. Deal with it.

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      Re: December 2008 Screwballs

      Reading the Nov screwy awards, Mike Wright is lucky I never saw his Narnia talk (being a big Lewis/Narnia fan). To quote Farnsworth, "The evil I could tolerate, but the stupidity... *shudder*".

      Anyway, need to subscribe so let's head over to DD's site and pick out some gold...

      First up... he seems to take two things only tangentially related and smash them together in a train wreck of world ending purportions:
      http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2008/12/03/framed/
      Quote Originally posted by DD
      A while back there was a bit of a brouhaha over how best to present science and/or atheism to the world. Atheists like Dawkins and Hitchens were said to be too “harsh” and “shrill” in their bold and confident assertions that religion was wrong. Advocates for atheism and/or science, it was said, needed to “frame” their arguments, to make them more appealing and less offensive for the average, religiously-minded layperson.

      Well, some atheists took that advice to heart, and Dinesh D’Souza would like to give them the “thanks” they deserve.

      The central argument of these scientific atheists is that modern science has refuted traditional religious conceptions of a divine creator.

      But of late atheism seems to be losing its scientific confidence. One sign of this is the public advertisements that are appearing in billboards from London to Washington DC. Dawkins helped pay for a London campaign to put signs on city buses saying, “There’s probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.” Humanist groups in America have launched a similar campaign in the nation’s capital. “Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness sake.” And in Colorado atheists are sporting billboards apparently inspired by John Lennon: “Imagine…no religion…”

      There is no claim here that God fails to satisfy some criterion of scientific validation. We hear nothing about how evolution has undermined the traditional “argument from design.” There’s not even a whisper about how science is based on reason while Christianity is based on faith…

      [A]theists seem to have given up the scientific card.

      Congratulations, framers. You’ve made Christians much happier, now that they can claim you’ve conceded defeat in the scientific realm.
      Having read Vox Day's TIA (a great read I recommend), and a casual reader of his website (I don't agree with him on everything), I'm anxious for DD to finish TIA because Vox has then promised to give him one massive rebuttal (or something). He may not have to, as DD will just hang himself.
      http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2...e-golden-rule/
      Quote Originally posted by DD
      Vox is partly right: Jesus didn’t base his religion on the Golden Rule, and more’s the pity because it would have produced a better moral system if he had.
      ...
      This time Vox is on more solid ground. Yes, the reference to “Love your neighbor as yourself” is a fair rewording of the Golden Rule, but that’s not Rule One. Rule One is to devote yourself completely to God, which in practice means unquestioning obedience to whatever the priests and prophets tell you God’s will is, whether it’s selling your daughter into sexual slavery or beating your slaves or taking genocide to the point of killing every man, woman, child, babe, and beast. This takes precedence over the Golden Rule in Jesus’ eyes, and it’s a shame he had to tarnish an otherwise good moral system with such primitive and barbaric superstitions.
      Epic... Fail

      Good 'ole DD. Always there when we need material.



      P.S. Everyone playing the Evangelical Realism drinking game...
      In fact, obeying God’s will is not merely difficult, but impossible, since God does not show up in real life to tell us what that will might be. Instead, we are forced to rely on what men say God’s will is—and no, it does not help that some other men have gotten together and voted to declare certain of their brethren to be infallible and inspired prophets and apostles. The leadership and teaching of an infallible and perfect deity might indeed provide us with a superior moral system, if we had real-world access to such a deity. But we don’t, and in His absence men have found it far too easy to their own desires into the words of Holy Writ.
      Take a drink!
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      "Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded- here and there, now and then- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as “bad luck.”"
      — Robert A. Heinlein

      "America's political system used to be about the pursuit of happiness. Now More and more of us want to stop chasing it and have it delivered."
      "The government cannot love you, and any politics that works on a different assumption is destined for no good."
      "Government money only pays for the "liberties" the government thinks you should have, and therefore it can determine how you exercise them. That turns liberties into privileges dispensed at the whim of the state."
      Jonah Goldberg

      Virgins get tossed into Volcanoes because sinners have the majority vote.

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      Re: December 2008 Screwballs

      Quote Originally posted by Challenger Grim View Post
      Having read Vox Day's TIA (a great read I recommend), and a casual reader of his website (I don't agree with him on everything), I'm anxious for DD to finish TIA because Vox has then promised to give him one massive rebuttal (or something). He may not have to, as DD will just hang himself.
      http://blog.evangelicalrealism.com/2...e-golden-rule/
      That might be "Vox vs. Kelly from the RRS" 2.0

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      Quote Originally posted by Pumbelo View Post
      That might be "Vox vs. Kelly from the RRS" 2.0
      I think you mean, Vox vs RRS Kelly 0.5. Kelly She at least seems to make less of a fool of herself as DD (but then, that's like comparing Steve-O vs Tom Green).
      "One develops a cool and ironic sense of bitter humor, as well as a bloated ego, and this personality characteristic is the defining trait of atheists ancient and modern. If there is a meek and humble atheist or sorcerer brimming with the milk of human kindness, I have yet to meet him." -John C Wright

      "Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded- here and there, now and then- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as “bad luck.”"
      — Robert A. Heinlein

      "America's political system used to be about the pursuit of happiness. Now More and more of us want to stop chasing it and have it delivered."
      "The government cannot love you, and any politics that works on a different assumption is destined for no good."
      "Government money only pays for the "liberties" the government thinks you should have, and therefore it can determine how you exercise them. That turns liberties into privileges dispensed at the whim of the state."
      Jonah Goldberg

      Virgins get tossed into Volcanoes because sinners have the majority vote.

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      Quote Originally posted by Challenger Grim View Post
      I think you mean, Vox vs RRS Kelly 0.5. Kelly She at least seems to make less of a fool of herself as DD (but then, that's like comparing Steve-O vs Tom Green).
      Help a noob out. Is the DD you are talking about OUR DeeDee or someone else entirely? Because you might wake up dead if it was OUR DeeDee.

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      Do you know the reach of their thought? Or do you think, perhaps, that their thought is upon you, and that they may shield you from afar?'

      'I know not,' said Húrin. 'Yet so it might be, if they willed. For the Elder King shall not be dethroned while Arda endures.'

      The Words of Húrin and Morgoth, "The Children of Húrin" by J.R.R. Tolkien

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      Quote Originally posted by Túrin Turambar View Post
      Help a noob out. Is the DD you are talking about OUR DeeDee or someone else entirely? Because you might wake up dead if it was OUR DeeDee.
      DD = Deacon Duncan = Dumplin' Dumbash

      I like to call him DD because it keeps reminding me of Dexter's sister (only not as bright).
      "One develops a cool and ironic sense of bitter humor, as well as a bloated ego, and this personality characteristic is the defining trait of atheists ancient and modern. If there is a meek and humble atheist or sorcerer brimming with the milk of human kindness, I have yet to meet him." -John C Wright

      "Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded- here and there, now and then- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as “bad luck.”"
      — Robert A. Heinlein

      "America's political system used to be about the pursuit of happiness. Now More and more of us want to stop chasing it and have it delivered."
      "The government cannot love you, and any politics that works on a different assumption is destined for no good."
      "Government money only pays for the "liberties" the government thinks you should have, and therefore it can determine how you exercise them. That turns liberties into privileges dispensed at the whim of the state."
      Jonah Goldberg

      Virgins get tossed into Volcanoes because sinners have the majority vote.

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