Creation or Evolution - do we have to choose? Denis Alexander & Stephen Lloyd debate (show of 29 Nov 08)

[justinbrierley]

So this time they are both Christians, but one (Denis) believes the evolutionary account and the other one (Stephen) doesn't.

Denis Alexander is a Fellow of St Edmunds College Cambridge and the director of the Faraday Institute for Science and Religion.

The book and articles by Denis Alexander that have appeared recently are a response to what he believes is a very dangerous trend towards polarising the Evolution/Creation issue in Christendom - and playing right into the hands of atheists such as Dawkins.

Hear the programme of the 29 Nov here:

www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable

Rather than go through the scientific aspects of design vs evolution etc. (which you can find on many other Unbelievable? progs) we concentrated on the theological issues.

I thought Stephen made a good case for there being a disparity between believing God uses the evolution process for creation since it involves death as an integral part of it, whereas most Christians would probably see physical death as not being something created by God, but rather a consequence of sin, the fall etc.

Stephen responded with the argument that spiritual death is what is really at stake when it comes to sinfulnes and that any theological questions that arise from believing the evolutionary account are dwarfed by the scientific questions that creationists are left with.

[Pumbelo]

We need more books that show christians that evolution is not anti-God.

[MooseOnTheLoose]

We need more books that show Christians that evolution can be anti-God.

[MarcusAndreas]

We need more books that show people that the debate ended 150 years ago.

[rogue06]

We need more books that show christians that evolution is not anti-God.

“Beyond the Firmament,” by Gordon J. Glover

"Can You Believe in God and Evolution?" by Ted Peters and Martinez Hewlett

“Darwin’s Gift to Science and Religion” by Francisco Ayala

“Evolution and Christian Faith: Reflections of an Evolutionary Biologist” by Joan Roughgarden

“Finding Darwin’s God” by Kenneth Miller

"Is God a Creationist? The Religious Case Against Creation-Science" by Roland Mushat Frye

“The Language of God” by Francis Collins

“Life's Solution: Inevitable Humans in a Lonely Universe” by Simon Conway Morris

"The Meaning of Creation: Genesis and Modern Science" by Conrad Hyers

“Perspectives on an Evolving Creation,” by Keith Miller

“Random Designer,” by Richard Colling

“Thank God for Evolution,” by the Rev. Michael Dowd

And of course the Bible itself




And welcome to Tweb to both you and justinbrierley

[MarcusAndreas]

Nice list.

[Pumbelo]

“Beyond the Firmament,” by Gordon J. Glover

"Can You Believe in God and Evolution?" by Ted Peters and Martinez Hewlett

“Darwin’s Gift to Science and Religion” by Francisco Ayala

“Evolution and Christian Faith: Reflections of an Evolutionary Biologist” by Joan Roughgarden

“Finding Darwin’s God” by Kenneth Miller

"Is God a Creationist? The Religious Case Against Creation-Science" by Roland Mushat Frye

“The Language of God” by Francis Collins

“Life's Solution: Inevitable Humans in a Lonely Universe” by Simon Conway Morris

"The Meaning of Creation: Genesis and Modern Science" by Conrad Hyers

“Perspectives on an Evolving Creation,” by Keith Miller

“Random Designer,” by Richard Colling

“Thank God for Evolution,” by the Rev. Michael Dowd

And of course the Bible itself

Amen.