Worship God in Spirit and Truth

[Jaxb]

[Obsidian]

I think it means that believers are spiritually counted as being in heaven already, through the link of the Holy Spirit.

Revelation 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Revelation 7:13-15
And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

[Jaxb]

I think it means that believers are spiritually counted as being in heaven already, through the link of the Holy Spirit.

Revelation 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Revelation 7:13-15
And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

Believers will definitely go to heaven. It is guaranteed.

[Obsidian]

Okay, well that is true, but I think you totally missed the point of my response, and how it answered your question.

[Jaxb]

Okay, well that is true, but I think you totally missed the point of my response, and how it answered your question.

I understand now.

You made a good point. That is something that I've never thought of before.

[Marta]

Now, I have put my words in your mouthI will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command himBut when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come
On Denying the Incarnation

1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

[Marta]

We see God's Spirit working through both Moses and Jeremiah (Torah/Old Testament) as we do with the New Testament on conversion of the Apostle Paul. The "Greatness" of Christ was seen in the Apostle Paul's conversion because Paul's conversion occurred after Jesus' crucifixion. The accounts of Paul's conversion experience describe it as miraculous, supernatural, or otherwise revelatory in nature. The very fact! was that the Holy Spirit "brought" Christ into the apostle's life and changed him on that day! Wonderful - how fast Christ will bring himself (Justice) to someone, that is the Spirit of Truth working!

Sorry if I only sighted scripture on the last message. For Paul to persecute early Christians but then to become a follower of Jesus, was another sign of the Christ giving sight to the blind - true? I love this passage from Luke 7:18-27, but in that passage Jesus says, Go back and report to John what you have seen and heard: The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor. 23 Blessed is anyone who does not stumble on account of meas Jesus said, "7 Will not God bring about justice for His elect who cry out to Him day and night? Will He continue to defer their help? 8 I tell you, He will promptly carry out justice on their behalf."