Thread: interesting science article
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January 9th 2009, 07:42 PM #16
Re: interesting science article
It's been more than a day since the OP appeared anywhere on TWeb.
Jussayin'.There is no lao tzu.
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January 9th 2009, 07:50 PM #17
Re: interesting science article
And Galileo was merely quoting Cardinal Julian Baronius, who was probably inspired by St. Augustine's remark that, “The Spirit of God who spoke through [the biblical writers] did not choose to teach about the heavens to men as it was no use for salvation.” And all this echoes Paul in II Timothy "And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus" (3:15). So the idea has an old and noble pedigree.
Always strive to keep an open mind – but not so open that your brains fall out!Still afeared of & dodging The PINTM
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January 9th 2009, 08:17 PM #18
Re: interesting science article
It took you over a day to respond to me, and all you did was cut and paste wikipedia. Okay, fine. None of that even supports what you originally said anyway. So "stars are attached to the firmament". (Leaving out complicated questions of metaphor and usage across languages and millenium.) Wheels are attached to a car, but they still move. Why could not stars be attached to a firmament while still moving? I gave you Biblical verse that support this in conjunction with those you listed. The Bible is not rigid on this point...why are you?"Biblical references to this cosmology (specifically, the notion of a solid Firmament with Heaven above it) include the creation of the Firmament in Genesis 1:6; God opening windows in the Firmament in Genesis 7:11to let water rain down, and closing them again in Genesis 8:2; the construction of a tall tower to reach Heaven in Genesis 11:4; celestial warehouses for snow and hail in Job 38:22,the sky as a strong crystalline material in Job 37:18and Ezekiel 1:22; the sky as a tent in Isaiah 40:22; stars as small objects attached to the Firmament (which can fall off) in Daniel 8:10,Matthew 24:29,Mark 13:25,Revelation 6:13,Revelation 8:10,Revelation 9:1and Revelation 12:4(it is sometimes claimed that these "falling stars" are meteors, but the swipe of a dragon's tail dislodges "one-third of all the stars in the sky" in Revelation 12:4)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament
Also, if the Bible was never meant to be a study for astronomy then why are we holding it up to this article as such?"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." --Hamlet Act I, Scene V (Shakespeare)
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January 9th 2009, 09:38 PM #19
Re: interesting science article
Some may call me foolish - some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of men
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From Fool's Gold by Petra
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