Thread: March 2009 Screwballs
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March 7th 2009, 01:09 AM #106
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Then Morgoth turned upon Húrin, and he said: 'Fool, little among Men, and they are the least of all that speak! Have you seen the Valar, or measured the power of Manwë and Varda?
Do you know the reach of their thought? Or do you think, perhaps, that their thought is upon you, and that they may shield you from afar?'
'I know not,' said Húrin. 'Yet so it might be, if they willed. For the Elder King shall not be dethroned while Arda endures.'
The Words of Húrin and Morgoth, "The Children of Húrin" by J.R.R. Tolkien
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March 7th 2009, 09:15 AM #107
Re: March 2009 Screwballs
Ahh, the things you find on blogs:
Check out this review of DJ's book:
http://hambydammit.wordpress.com/200...y-john-loftus/
The review itself isn't nominated- I've never read the book, so I can't comment, but overall it gives a generally positive view.
But not positive enough for John.
Look at the comments- they start to get nasty the further you go.
waring: expect some foul language from john.
Edit: Okay, go for it- give the author of the review a screwball too. He appears to be a Jesus mythicist.Last edited by Spacefoetus; March 7th 2009 at 09:24 AM.
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March 7th 2009, 09:31 AM #108
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I had a debate with him over the resurrection of Jesus. He made a video, which I responded to. He responded to about a third of my arguments and declared that the rest weren't worth responding to. I replied to that video. He never replied. He declared that he had gotten "****ing bored" His fans continue to declare that I was somehow defeated even though he didn't reply.
God became man so that man might become god. -St. Athanasius of Alexandria
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March 7th 2009, 10:22 AM #109
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http://www.tektoonics.com
Due to rampant stupidity by Skeptics, and time issues, I'm only going to be on TWeb in my own (tektonics.org) section from now on. Deal with it.
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March 7th 2009, 12:42 PM #110
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No, he specifically denies this. He calls himself a Jesus-irrelevantist.
http://hambydammit.wordpress.com/?s=jesus+mythAs I’ve said often, I’m not a mythicist, and I don’t particularly care whether there was or was not a historical Jesus.
I haven't read enough of the blog to decide whether he's splitting hairs, though.Tektonics Research - All content, no jokes.
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March 7th 2009, 12:52 PM #111
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March 7th 2009, 01:12 PM #112
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in all seriousness Kabane, back then the two of us were not particularly well-read and danced around the issues to some extent.
although if there were a sort of "take-two" of a resurrection debate between the two of you, (or between us and him) it would be much more interesting and I think the victory for you would be much more decisive.
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March 7th 2009, 01:21 PM #113
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screwie for yolunch (again)
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...&postcount=928(responding to CodewordConduit)
You, dear Ms. are not REALLY an Agnostic are you? Why do you continue to attack me? I am trying to get feedback from Christians-- NOT YOU! You just give them more material to throw at me. Please stop! They do not need your help!Tektonics Research - All content, no jokes.
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March 7th 2009, 03:15 PM #114
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I had a debate with him over the resurrection of Jesus. He made a video, which I responded to. He responded to about a third of my arguments and declared that the rest weren't worth responding to. I replied to that video. He never replied. He declared that he had gotten "****ing bored" His fans continue to declare that I was somehow defeated even though he didn't reply.
God became man so that man might become god. -St. Athanasius of Alexandria
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March 7th 2009, 03:17 PM #115
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Here's a good one for Gom Jabbar:
"I think you have problems reading - an appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. End. No matter how much your sheepish brain wants to think otherwise this is a fact. The same as there is no argument ("sadly" there are only fallacious arguments against this) against homosexuality that does not define someone as a homophobic."
And he wonders why no one takes him seriously in the Religion boards over at Sheezy."If fighting is sure to result in victory then you must fight!" Sun Tsu said that, and I'd say he knows a little more about fighting than you do pal because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no living man can best him on the ring of honor! Then he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF EVERY SINGLE ONE! Ehehehehehehehehehe. And from that day forward anytime a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a 'zoo!' Unless it's a farm!
-Soldier Class, TF2
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March 7th 2009, 06:04 PM #116
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More straight from Gom's mouth on why Ben Witherington III is not qualified to decide the historicity of the Gospel accounts:
http://www.sheezyart.com/comment/67966700/
This entire comment line is screwball worthy, honestly. Good for a bunch of laughs, and pretty much proof he wouldn't last five seconds here."If fighting is sure to result in victory then you must fight!" Sun Tsu said that, and I'd say he knows a little more about fighting than you do pal because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no living man can best him on the ring of honor! Then he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF EVERY SINGLE ONE! Ehehehehehehehehehe. And from that day forward anytime a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a 'zoo!' Unless it's a farm!
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March 7th 2009, 07:47 PM #117
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Love is not blind; that is the last thing it is. Love is bound; and the more it is bound the less it is blind. GK Chesterton, Orthodoxy
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March 7th 2009, 07:50 PM #118
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March 8th 2009, 04:51 AM #119
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March 8th 2009, 12:54 PM #120
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Screwball to Steve Mason, scholar who authored a book on Josephus and the New Testament, and formerly someone I had a certain amount of respect for, but now joins the ranks of scholars like Hector Avalos and Robert Eisenman, after writing me to protest that passages like these in my article at http://www.tektonics.org/lp/lukeandjoe.html :
..."misrepresent" him as having a "single-minded" desire to prove a point with no concern for the truth.If this is so, then Mason's ideas that Luke "knew some highlights of Josephus' story but did not recall or was not concerned with the details" [208 - an unfalsifiable explanation that rather conveniently "saves the theory in spite of the facts" by saying that Luke obviously knew Josephus, because they are so similar, but begs off obvious indications that Luke did not know Josephus, by making Luke's knowledge or expression imperfect!] falls to the wayside.
I told him to grow up, stop being paranoid, and act like he has a doctorate!
DJ wins too for playing the old "if you were born in Saudi Arabia" card AGAIN:
http://debunkingchristianity.blogspo...raised-in.html
The utmost hilarity is that no one fits those 4 characteristics better than DJ!Isn’t it obvious that in a Christian dominated culture children are taught to believe before they could ever come to their own conclusions through reason? And in such a dominant Christian culture isn’t it obvious that these children who are raised to believe receive certain benefits from the social relationships of the church they’re involved in that make faith comfortable for them? What best explains why the Amish children stay in the Amish fold if they never leave their particular small culture? What best explains the fact that many young people lose their faith when they get out of such a church environment by attending a University? And isn’t it obvious that if a child is told s/he should not doubt but have faith or else s/he will be eternally punished that this provides a very strong firewall against honest doubt? Child molesters tell their victims not to tell anyone or else they might be killed. Is that much different? And isn’t it obvious that this whole process is best described as brainwashing or mind control? What is it, if that doesn’t explain it? And isn’t it obvious that most of us could be persuaded or manipulated into thinking and doing what we normally would consider false or wrong? Doesn’t the malleability of human thinking alone call upon us all to be skeptics? I think so. If you disagree, why not?
The characteristics of a brainwashed person are 1) xenophobia, or the fear of outsiders, an us/them mentality (which includes the fear of reading what those who disagree write); 2) A high degree of emotionally attachment to a belief; 3) That a person highly prefers his/her beliefs are true. And, 4) wishful thinking, which clouds a person’s judgment. There are other factors.
Believers are blinded by their passions because they have been brainwashed by their culture. Our culturally inherited beliefs are what we use to “see” with. These inherited beliefs are much like our very eyes themselves, so it’s extremely difficult to examine that which we use to see with. We cannot easily pluck out our eyes to look at them since we use our eyes to see. But we must do this if we truly want to examine that which we were taught to believe. Again, it’s a simple fact that brainwashed people do not know they have been brainwashed!
Last edited by jpholding; March 8th 2009 at 01:02 PM.
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