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For those of you who believe that the universe was created 14 billion years ago by an eternally existing deity, I'm wondering what it is you think that deity was doing for that eternal duration prior to that creation?
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He existed in a state of eternal self-satisfaction contemplating its utter perfection.Originally posted by JimL View Post“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams. -
Creating hell for people who ask such questions.
Or so goes the joke related by St Augustine. It is rather interesting that both Hawking and Vilenkin cite Augustine on this question. If time itself came into existence, it makes no sense to ask what was occurring before that. Even if one cannot accept the theological singularity of believing in an eternal God who is not limited by our own human and finite perception of time, why is it hard to acknowledge our own human limitations in understanding such ultimate realities? Some physicists speak of Euclidean time as a fourth spatial dimension or even one of 10 or 11 dimensions in string theory as mathematical attempts to answer this question. Trying to understand the math might not be much different than hell.βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃Comment
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I would kindly suggest that you spend more time thinking about what God WILL do when you stand before Him.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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I thought robrecht gave an excellent response. Even amen'd him. So, it wasn't a 'dismissal', Sea -- it was a supplemental.Originally posted by Sea of red View Post
Same applies to you, by the way.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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really? It was a nonsensical question. What did God do for the eternal duration before time existed?Originally posted by Sea of red View Post
That is a reasonable question?
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Even if God had always existed within time, any answer absent divine revelation would be spitballing.Originally posted by Sparko View PostEnter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologistComment
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But He'd already know what all the future episodes of every tv show in existence would be! Everything is already spoiled for a Being with omniscience!Originally posted by Sparko View Post
If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!Comment
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He likes reruns.Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostBut He'd already know what all the future episodes of every tv show in existence would be! Everything is already spoiled for a Being with omniscience!
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Probably can't get enough of Gilligan's IslandOriginally posted by Sparko View Post
I'm always still in trouble again
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That must be why it took him so long to create the universe.Originally posted by rogue06 View PostProbably can't get enough of Gilligan's Island
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Except He could make up much better stories than we can.Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Never mind, we are clearly turning this thread into a joke thread. Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer!If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!Comment
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