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    D.C. Votes Overwhelmingly To Become 51st State

    Voters in the District of Columbia passed a measure on Tuesday in favor of petitioning Congress to become a state in the union.

    79 percent of voters cast votes in favor of the ballot measure, which splits the district into a residential state with a small federal district in the middle of it for government buildings and monuments, as we have reported.

    The newly approved measure had four parts:

    agree that the District should be admitted to the Union as the State of New Columbia
    approve of a Constitution of the State of New Columbia to be adopted by the Council
    approve the State of New Columbia's boundaries
    agree that the State of New Columbia shall guarantee an elected representative form of government.

    Now that it has passed, the petition will go to Congress, which has the power to permit or deny it. D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser told the Washington Post she would move quickly and deliver a petition for D.C. statehood to the president-elect and congressional leaders by Inauguration Day.
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    "This is what I've heard from D.C. residents all over the city. ... They want to be treated like every American. They want two senators," Bowser told the Post. "We need equality, and the only way to get there is with statehood."

    Residents of the District of Columbia currently do not have full voting rights. As NPR's Ken Rudin explained in a 2010 blog post:

    "People who live in the nation's capital — at least most of them anyway — pay their taxes. But they don't have voting representation in Congress. They do get three electoral votes in the race for president. But there is nobody for them in the Senate, and in the House, there is a delegate who can vote in committee or on procedural matters that don't involve a final vote but cannot vote on the floor."

    The proposed "State of New Columbia" would grant residents the right to full congressional representation under a new state Constitution that will be drawn up as a result of the referendum.

    But the outcomes of the presidential and congressional races on Tuesday could affect whether Congress and the next president approve D.C.'s petition.

    The Washington Post notes:

    "Partisan politics have long made D.C. statehood a non-starter with Republicans in Congress. ... Democrats outnumber Republicans in the District by a margin of more than 2 to 1. That means that if it were allowed to become a state, the District would probably elect two Democratic senators and a Democratic member of the House, improving odds for Democratic control of both chambers for decades to come."

    In 2015, Trump said on NBC's Meet the Press that, when it came to the question of statehood, he would be in favor of "whatever's best for them," referring to the people of D.C.

    "I would look at a number of things," he said. "And something would be done that everybody would be happy."
    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...ome-51st-state
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    So a single city will be a state? and have the voting power and representation of an entire state?

    I thought the whole reason there was a D.C was to provide neutrality so there would be no favoritism of any state that housed the Federal Government. So much for that.

    I'm agin' it


  • #2
    I'm for it, just so people will stop calling it "Washington". It's confusing, since there is a state called Washington.
    Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.

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    • #3
      If it becomes a state, where should we move all of congress and the federal offices?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
        If it becomes a state, where should we move all of congress and the federal offices?
        They would remain there. That is why I think it is a conflict of interest. I think that is why they created a separate NON-STATE area for the federal government in the first place. If they wanted the government in a state, they could have just left it where it was. No need for a new state.
        Last edited by Sparko; 11-09-2016, 02:28 PM.

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        • #5
          They need two senators like they need stricter gun control.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            They need two senators like they need stricter gun control.
            Why should a single city get to be a state and have senators? That is just freaking crazy.

            If they want to be part of a state, they can just go back to being part of Maryland and Virginia. Then they get their representation.

            Why does DC even get 3 electoral votes? That is asinine too.

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            • #7
              Can we give them Northern Virginia, please???
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              • #8
                If the residents what to not live at the US Capital they should move.

                http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/13/22...he-51st-state/
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  So a single city will be a state?
                  There is precedence.
                  https://infogalactic.com/info/Vatican_City
                  https://infogalactic.com/info/Singapore
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Yttrium View Post
                    I'm for it, just so people will stop calling it "Washington". It's confusing, since there is a state called Washington.
                    The city name was there first.

                    Besides, the name of the small town I live in ends in "Road" - talk about confusing when I try to get a cab ride home from work.
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                    • #11
                      We don't truck with no furriner precedence here.
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                      • #12
                        just dissolve DC back into Maryland and Virginia and they will have full representation.

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                        • #13
                          I think DC should get a voting member in Congress, but don't see the need for statehood. (Though it still has more people than Wyoming.)
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                            I think DC should get a voting member in Congress, but don't see the need for statehood.
                            It doesn't need a voting member in congress. IT IS A CITY.


                            (Though it still has more people than Wyoming.)
                            By that logic we should make every large city it's own state.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              So a single city will be a state? and have the voting power and representation of an entire state?
                              Its population is larger than Vermont. It's sensible to make it a state, or to let it join one of the surrounding states. But the people in it want it to be their own state, and in a democracy what they want matters.

                              Do you remember the phrase "no taxation without representation"? Currently the people in D.C. are taxed by the federal government but they have no representation there.

                              I thought the whole reason there was a D.C was to provide neutrality so there would be no favoritism of any state that housed the Federal Government.
                              Well it was originally because it was feared that putting the capital in New York city would allow business to corrupt government, so they wanted the capital geographically separated from business interests to prevent corruption. Long term, that hasn't been a successful plan.

                              Making D.C. a state seems unlikely to cause any 'favoritism' to the state that houses the federal government. Why would it? The federal government has nothing to do with any particular state, and is not affected more currently by states it's geographically near.
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