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    Quote Originally Posted by RGJesus View Post
    When Jesus died on the cross, (1) did the God-man Jesus die? (2) Did the God Jesus die? (3) Did the man Jesus die?
    All three solutions are in a way correct.

    The God-Man died. Note, this involves the Person of God dying, but it involves doing so through the assumed Human Nature. Not through His original eternal one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RGJesus View Post
    Let's just say my spirit doesn't die when my flesh does. When Jesus died, was his flesh that died? If so, then it is the man Jesus that died, not the God-man Jesus. Or maybe it is the flesh of (the God-man) Jesus that died. Are you not seeing the logical problem?
    Dying means separation of flesh and soul.

    The flesh after the separation is a corpse, a dead body.

    If the souls appear, it is the soul or spook of a dead person. Death affects both halves.

    And both halves remained united in one person with God the Son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RGJesus View Post
    Let's start with this: before Jesus resurrected, when his dead corpse was laying in the tomb, was it conscious or unconscious?
    It was unconscious, as was Christ when asleep.

    And it was united to the Omniscient God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewriteranon View Post
    And please throw in some pseudo-Dionysius to introduce you to the concept of theological mystery.
    What do you mean "pseudo"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hansgeorg View Post
    What do you mean "pseudo"?
    It's rather widely acknowledged that the writings of Dionysius the Araeopagite are pseudonymous, and weren't written until the sixth century (and likely by a Monophysite).
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    It's rather widely acknowledged that the writings of Dionysius the Araeopagite are pseudonymous, and weren't written until the sixth century (and likely by a Monophysite).
    That is exactly what I am contesting.

    St Thomas Aquinas had no use for denying the Araeopagite authorship, and while I am generally against Romanides, two things are to his credit, he agreed with St Thomas Aquinas on this one and he agreed Aenaeas came to Latinus (even if it was for the somewhat less lucid purpose of proving Greek rather than Latin first language of Rome : Aeneas and Latinus could have had other options than Mycenean Greek).
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    Quote Originally Posted by hansgeorg View Post
    That is exactly what I am contesting.
    If you have some evidence for the writings from before the sixth century, I'd be interested in seeing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    If you have some evidence for the writings from before the sixth century, I'd be interested in seeing it.
    If you have any evidence of his writings from just after sixth century attributing it to sixth century rather than to the disciple of St Paul, I'd be interested in seeing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hansgeorg View Post
    If you have any evidence of his writings from just after sixth century attributing it to sixth century rather than to the disciple of St Paul, I'd be interested in seeing that.
    That's not how pseudonymous writings work. There are many, many pseudonymous writings extant. I can think of ONE which was immediately identified as such (namely, 3 Corinthians).
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    I can think of ONE which was immediately identified as such (namely, 3 Corinthians).
    Sure III Corinthians is pseudonymous rather than Pauline but merely topical and not claimed by St Paul as inspired teaching?
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