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April 25th 2009, 01:09 PM #1
How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
I am disappointed with the pro-abortion stance this administration is taking. I am an active citizen, so I am working on a Powerpoint presentation to send to Mr. Obama to possibly change his mind. I have included information that birth starts at conception, and sometimes before. I have included pictures of women who have died doing abortions on themselves with barbaric equipment. And I have included testimonials from the leading ministers in my area to why abortion is wrong.
What else can we do to change his mind?
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April 25th 2009, 01:12 PM #2
Re: How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
Point out Planned Parenthood's racist origins. Also lots of pictures of aborted fetuses.
Call me Mark. I like sarcasm and the surreal.
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April 25th 2009, 01:29 PM #3
Re: How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
If triangles had a God, He'd have three sides.
In 1945 the USA unleashed an enormous amount of energy over Hiroshima and Nagasaki...
What did THAT big bang create..?
Did it create anything at all..?
No it didnt. - Some YEC Muppet
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April 25th 2009, 01:44 PM #4
Re: How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
No... no sarcasm.
Call me Mark. I like sarcasm and the surreal.
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April 25th 2009, 03:54 PM #5
Re: How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
He knows abortion is wrong, but it is convenient.
He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. (Micah 6:8)
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April 25th 2009, 04:22 PM #6
Re: How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
Just point out the great job that Bush did in eight years as POTUS.
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April 25th 2009, 05:02 PM #7
Re: How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
Bush was not ideal, but in eight years he has done less harm than Obama has to date.
He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. (Micah 6:8)
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April 25th 2009, 08:53 PM #8
Re: How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
Pray.
Nochyu mokraya ptitsa nikogda ne letaet.
A wet bird never flies at night. -unknown [old Russian proverb]
Eudyptes: you are....as usual....100% correct
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April 25th 2009, 09:54 PM #9
Re: How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
Hi George,
Your heart is in the right place, but I fear you are doomed to failure from the start.
For those who support abortion rights, what you have mentioned is an argument FOR legalized abortion, not against it. Pro-choice people claim that, with legalized abortion, there is no need for such barbaric back-ally abortions, and those women would still be alive. Thus abortion is wonderful, and so forth and so on.
The fact that most mainstream Christian denominations abhor abortion is well known. Thus, I doubt this will sway any who already support abortion rights.
I believe that Dizzle's suggestion of prayer is probably all that can be done.
I believe the display of gratuitous pictures of aborted fetuses loses the Pro-Life lobby more supporters than it gains us. The display of such images is associated in the general public's eye with the radical, Bible-thumping Christian type, and any arguments associated with radical religion rarely have the desired effect, regardless of whether the arguments themselves are valid or not.
Peace."Even religion, though it goes beyond logic, cannot go against it; if it did, it would literally be unbelievable."
- Peter Kreeft, Socratic Logic (3rd ed.)
Gott, der barmherzige Vater, hat durch den Tod und die Auferstehung seines Sohnes die Welt mit sich versöhnt und den Heiligen Geist gesandt zur Vergebung der Sünden. Durch den Dienst der Kirche schenke er dir Verzeihung und Frieden. So spreche ich dich los von deinen Sünden im Namen des Vaters und des Sohnes und des Heiligen Geistes. Amen.
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May 1st 2009, 09:07 AM #10
Re: How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
I'd say there isnt much you can do to change Obama's mind. Over here in Australia we have just decriminalised abortion and the response from the wider public has been generally positive.
Id say its better to accept that Obama wont change his stance so that instead you can focus on trying to defend the rights of doctors to not personally perform the abortion operation if they do not so wish.
Im all for abortion but i do believe that if a doctor has an objection to it on religious terms then he or she should be able to simply allow another doctor to perform the operation and not go through with it themselves.
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May 1st 2009, 09:28 AM #11
Re: How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
This is one of the absolute worst parts about being a Democrat. At times I feel I am the only pro life democrat in the nation. For a party that "cares" so much about the disenfranchised they seem to care little about the unborn. It is horrible. I think we need to change the parties stance if you expect Obama to shift.
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May 1st 2009, 09:46 AM #12
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I don't think abortionists "believe" based on fact. Facts will not change their minds. Only a divine intervention will change this.
No, i'm not being sarcastic. Unfortunately, I'm quite serious.
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May 7th 2009, 03:39 PM #13
Re: How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
That would be tantamount to having a battle of wits with an unarmed man. He cannot understand you because he is in the dark. First pray that he will get saved. Then pray that he will allow the Holy Spirit to lead Him. Barring that, you're wasting your time and energy on a lost cause. Obama is about one thing, and one thing alone, getting liberal democratic voters who love their abortions to vote for him. As long as they vote, he'll bend over backwards to do whatever he can to support abortions. If you think he cares more about the life of a fetus, then he does about keeping his office as president, think again. He may not sell his own soul to the devil for political office, but he will sell the souls of millions of unborn babies. He may still end up in the same place, but to him it's a less painful way of getting there.
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May 7th 2009, 03:47 PM #14
Re: How can we convince Obama that abortion is wrong?
I may not yet be as old as dirt, but dirt and I are starting to have an awful lot in common... Stephen Donaldson - Author of my favorite series (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant)
S'cuse me... oops, I'm sorry... I didn't see your sign - Bill Engvall
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May 7th 2009, 04:00 PM #15
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