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      Re: Pakistan or Iran Next?

      Darth I don't what personal bug is up your behind, but if you're gonna level insult after insult, do me a favor and stay out of the thread.

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      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      That they're still standing is a testament of the fact that pseud-pacifist scum like you and ron paul are already running most of the world. Who cares about how many people get murdered by brutal dictators as long as you're living comfortably, eh?
      Are you a neoconservative? Are you traveling with the Kristols? (Irving is dead but William is still up, unfortunately.) Are you part of the military-industry-government complex? An agent for it?

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      Quote Originally posted by Augustine2004 View Post
      Are you a neoconservative? Are you traveling with the Kristols? (Irving is dead but William is still up, unfortunately.) Are you part of the military-industry-government complex? An agent for it?
      Usually when a person is of one extreme or the other, it's best to let it go, because you're not gonna get an ounce of reasonable conversation one way or the other.

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      Quote Originally posted by Augustine2004 View Post
      Are you a neoconservative? Are you traveling with the Kristols? (Irving is dead but William is still up, unfortunately.) Are you part of the military-industry-government complex? An agent for it?
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

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      Quote Originally posted by seanD View Post
      Usually when a person is of one extreme or the other, it's best to let it go, because you're not gonna get an ounce of reasonable conversation one way or the other.
      Yeah, you and augustine really have no right to admonish others about "extremes" since you're both practically swimming in tin foil hats.
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      Yeah, you and augustine really have no right to admonish others about "extremes" since you're both practically swimming in tin foil hats.
      You are extreme. You're an extreme rightist, and a very dumb one to boot. I not only found this out by the way you throw insults around, but your understanding of issues like the housing crisis. People like you can't be reasoned with even with the facts thrown in your face. The thing that makes you so hazardous is not just your extreme views, but that you don't think for your self, you just parrot what others say.

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      Quote Originally posted by seanD View Post
      You are extreme. You're an extreme rightist, and a very dumb one to boot. I not only found this out by the way you throw insults around, but your understanding of issues like the housing crisis.
      Tossing a bunch of acronyms around doesn't make you qualified enough to judge my understanding of the housing crisis. Particularly when you were too chicken to even finish the discussion.

      People like you can't be reasoned with even with the facts thrown in your face.
      What "facts"? Facts like Ahmadinejad outright saying he'd destroy Israel and is willing to sacrifice half of Iran's population to do it being "neocon propaganda"? Your quoting the IAEA and gibbs saying two different things and claiming they're now walking in lockstep as a result?
      seanD, ladies and gentlemen, SPLITTING ATOMS WITH HIS MIND!

      The thing that makes you so hazardous is not just your extreme views, but that you don't think for your self, you just parrot what others say.
      Weren't you mindlessly parroting some Russian general a few posts ago? All you do is selectively trust a handful of nutjobs and only trust them because they help feed your paranoia, not because they're genuinely trustworthy.
      Last edited by Darth Executor; March 2nd 2010 at 03:00 PM.
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      Tossing a bunch of acronyms around doesn't make you qualified enough to judge my understanding of the housing crisis.

      What "facts"? Facts like Ahmadinejad outright saying he'd destroy Israel and is willing to sacrifice half of Iran's population to do it? Your quoting the IAEA and gibbs saying two different things and claiming they're now walking in lockstep as a result?
      seanD, ladies and gentlemen, SPLITTING ATOMS WITH HIS MIND!

      Weren't you mindlessly parroting some Russian general a few posts ago? All you do is selectively trust a handful of nutjobs and only trust them because they help feed your paranoia, not because they're genuinely trustworthy.
      People can see how completely ignorant (or an ignoramus) you are about the housing crisis, yet how you fight to the death to protect your reactionary opinions regardless of how ignorant you are of the subject -- and they can see just who was too chicken to finish the discussion... http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...d.php?t=136728

      "and is willing to sacrifice half of Iran's population to do it?" He said that?

      And I said that the IAEA claims that Iran is in position to enrich uranium to nuclear weapon capability, whereas two weeks prior the US denied Iran's claims of enrichment. Now the US and the IAEA are in agreement with the saber rattling... http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...OT6-wD9E5B60G1

      The fact that they are in agreement against Iran is obvious, but I wanted to point out the inconsistencies in their denouncements of Iran.

      And where did I indicate in that post that I trust what Nikolai Makarov is saying?
      Quote Originally posted by seanD View Post
      According to Russian general Nikolai Makarov, The US will strike Iran after the Afghan and Iraq campaign. Supposedly he heard this from Joint Chiefs of Staff Michael Mullin...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHaZzJE7C14
      I"m just reporting the events that are taking shape around this issue.

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      Tin foil hats? Hmmm . . . psychological projection? Yeah, that could be it.

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      Quote Originally posted by seanD View Post
      People can see how completely ignorant (or an ignoramus) you are about the housing crisis, yet how you fight to the death to protect your reactionary opinions regardless of how ignorant you are of the subject -- and they can see just who was too chicken to finish the discussion... http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...d.php?t=136728
      Yes, I too encourage people to go to that thread where it is plain to see that seanD is too stupid to even figure out what the exact topic is (the moron thinks that my explanation of why financial institutions' collapse would affect everybody in a hypothetical scenario is my explanation for the current collapse )

      "and is willing to sacrifice half of Iran's population to do it?" He said that?
      Apparently he did, but the original article seems to have disappeared so I'll drop it. He did say he wants to destroy Israel though, which is good enough for me.

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080300629.html

      Another point I should make is that Iran is becoming increasingly unstable, so if a revolution starts and the mullahs appear to be losing, their having nuclear weapons would be a disaster not just for foreign countries but possibly for Iranians themselves as desperation could drive them to nuke their own population in a last ditch effort to subdue them.

      But no worries, dictator brown nosers like seanD and Augustine assure us Iran just wants to use nukes as a deterrent to protect them from those evil americans and israelis.

      And I said that the IAEA claims that Iran is in position to enrich uranium to nuclear weapon capability, whereas two weeks prior the US denied Iran's claims of enrichment. Now the US and the IAEA are in agreement with the saber rattling... http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...OT6-wD9E5B60G1

      The fact that they are in agreement against Iran is obvious, but I wanted to point out the inconsistencies in their denouncements of Iran.
      I actually read the articles you linked this time and your description of them is inaccurate. the US denied that Iran has enriched uranium to the levels Iran is claiming. I don't see anything about the IAEA confirming the precision of Iran's claims. And btw, that's not "saber rattling", it's "pointing out the obvious". Saber rattling would be saying something like "we're gonna turn Iran into a sheet of glass"

      Even if there had been an inconsistency, Gibbs is an idiot and has contradicted the Obama administration before so this wouldn't be anything new.

      And where did I indicate in that post that I trust what Nikolai Makarov is saying?
      Because you are quoting him in support of your position. And don't feed me the "i don't necessarily agree with him, I'm just sayin'" crap. That's a cowardly way of doing things. If you want to use him as a source, be a man about it.
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Quote Originally posted by Augustine2004 View Post
      Tin foil hats? Hmmm . . . psychological projection? Yeah, that could be it.
      How is it projection? Which crazy conspiracy theories do you see me publicly and shamelessly supporting like you do?
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

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      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      How is it projection? Which crazy conspiracy theories do you see me publicly and shamelessly supporting like you do?
      The governments of the world and what they may have done in the past and may do today aside, kindly list the TWeb posts by me . . ., please.

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      Quote Originally posted by Augustine2004 View Post
      The governments of the world and what they may have done in the past and may do today aside, kindly list the TWeb posts by me . . ., please.
      Not sure why you can't list your posts yourself, but here you go:

      http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/se...archid=2524311

      And what does that have to do with me projecting? You said that my accusation of you being a crazy conspiracy theorist is "projection" which implies I'm the crazy conspiracy theorist and deflecting that onto you. I'm gonna ask again: which conspiracy theories do you see me supporting?
      Last edited by Darth Executor; March 2nd 2010 at 04:00 PM.
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      I actually read the articles you linked this time and your description of them is inaccurate. the US denied that Iran has enriched uranium to the levels Iran is claiming. I don't see anything about the IAEA confirming the precision of Iran's claims.
      You just read the article? That's one of your many problems, Darth. Not only are you not that bright and a very insulting individual, but like most extreme reactionaries, you react on impulse and emotion, merely parroting things that have been fed to you by the likes of the Limbaughs and such, before even looking at the facts.

      Amano expressed concern that Tehran may be working on a nuclear warhead and confirmed that Iran has started enriching uranium to higher levels, theoretically bringing it close to levels needed for an atomic bomb.

      http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...hH-08ul_Ty5beQ



      If it takes 80% grade to make a bomb, I don't think Amano denies Iran's claims that they have upgraded to 20%.

      And there's a difference whether I agree with someone or trust someone. I don't necessary trust Nikolai Makarov's claims because I don't know (though I don't know what would make him claim something like that, especially throw out Mullen's name, if it were true). I do agree that we will attack Iran, because it's looking more and more like the case. But I can't post something that someone claims, whether I trust it or not?

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      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      Not sure why you can't list your posts yourself, but here you go:

      http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/se...archid=2524311
      Were you trying to list all my posts? Just a sample, like, IYO the 10 worst posts by me.

      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      And what does that have to do with me projecting? You said that my accusation of you being a crazy conspiracy theorist is "projection" which implies I'm the crazy conspiracy theorist and deflecting that onto you. I'm gonna ask again: which conspiracy theories do you see me supporting?
      I'm not that familiar with your posts. I was merely reacting to your 'tin-foil hat' rantings in this thread.

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