Did Jesus rise from the dead? (tehknologick vs. Kabane52)

[yo lunch]

No, that's not what I'm saying.



Of course you don't. You don't participate in serious discussions.



Yawn.

Well now, let's get serious then! After all, was it not Paul who said "...if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain."? 1 Cor 15:14

That makes the Resurrection the single most important aspect of Christianity! Mighty serious, indeed!

Problem is, I have searched this threat from top to bottom and have not seen a modicum of evidence to show that there ever was a resurrection!

Now, I wish to illuminate a theory about this so-called "resurrection." You see, there is a practice in Voo-Doo wherein a potion concocted from the Pufferfish, that allows one to mimic death. Could something like that may have been to Jesus by joseph , to Jesus sometime prior to his entombment.

So, I'd like to have a serious discourse on that!

[Composer]

Well now, let's get serious then! After all, was it not Paul who said "...if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain."? 1 Cor 15:14

That makes the Resurrection the single most important aspect of Christianity! Mighty serious, indeed!

Problem is, I have searched this threat from top to bottom and have not seen a modicum of evidence to show that there ever was a resurrection!

Now, I wish to illuminate a theory about this so-called "resurrection." You see, there is a practice in Voo-Doo wherein a potion concocted from the Pufferfish, that allows one to mimic death. Could something like that may have been to Jesus by joseph , to Jesus sometime prior to his entombment.

So, I'd like to have a serious discourse on that!

I have always found it interesting that the supposed ' resurrected body ' is still physically imperfect (i.e. bearing the physical scars and injuries of mortality) as with the following example and case in question -

Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands ; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust [it] into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. (John 20:27) KJV story book

[Sparko]

He kept the scars for us, not because he had to.

[Tassman]

I have always found it interesting that the supposed ' resurrected body ' is still physically imperfect (i.e. bearing the physical scars and injuries of mortality) as with the following example and case in question -

Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands ; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust [it] into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. (John 20:27) KJV story book

This surely was due to the developing tradition of the resurrection from a spiritual one (with the body left rotting in a common grave - the usual fate of executed criminals), as can be discerned in the early writers like Paul, to the notion of a fleshly resurrection as evolved later and depicted in the canonical gospels and hammered home in the Thomas story - and elsewhere.

[headheart]

He kept the scars for us, not because he had to.

Y' think?

[yo lunch]

He kept the scars for us, not because he had to.

What?! That being so, have you seen them? Please!

[Sparko]

What?! That being so, have you seen them? Please!

One day I will. As will you.

[yo lunch]

One day I will. As will you.

And exactly how does that inure to our benefit NOW?

[Sparko]

And exactly how does that inure to our benefit NOW?

who said it did?

[yo lunch]

who said it did?

You said: "He kept the scars for us, not because he had to."

That would mean that we are also to see the scars and not just allow the apostles to see them! Then you said that we will see them one day! Then I asked how that would benefit us since we would be dead and could not use that knowledge to influence our faith in the resurrection? Get it?! In other words, your logic stinks!

[Sparko]

You said: "He kept the scars for us, not because he had to."

That would mean that we are also to see the scars and not just allow the apostles to see them! Then you said that we will see them one day! Then I asked how that would benefit us since we would be dead and could not use that knowledge to influence our faith in the resurrection? Get it?! In other words, your logic stinks!

To remind us for eternity of what he did for us because of his love.

[Composer]

To remind us for eternity of what he did for us because of his love.

What your story book jesus allegedly ' did for us ' was a lie and a pretence and a fraud.

. . . . Christ died for us . . . . . (Romans 5:8) KJV story book

IF your story book jesus had literally physically ' died for us ' then

a) It would still be literally dead and not allegedly physically alive and rewarded.

b) We would never literally physically die now or ever, but obviously ever since the fraudulent claims were made, people have continued to literally physically die and your story book jesus' fraudulent claims exposed.

Better luck next time deary. LOL!

[yo lunch]

To remind us for eternity of what he did for us because of his love.

I repeat, your logic stinks! How can I have a serious discussion when you speak such obvious absurdities?!

[Sparko]

What your story book jesus allegedly ' did for us ' was a lie and a pretence and a fraud.

. . . . Christ died for us . . . . . (Romans 5:8) KJV story book

IF your story book jesus had literally physically ' died for us ' then

a) It would still be literally dead and not allegedly physically alive and rewarded.

b) We would never literally physically die now or ever, but obviously ever since the fraudulent claims were made, people have continued to literally physically die and your story book jesus' fraudulent claims exposed.

Better luck next time deary. LOL!

I feel sorry for you composer. Maybe one day you will let go of your bitterness and find Christ waiting there for you.

Revelation 3:20
Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.

[Composer]

I feel sorry for you composer. Maybe one day you will let go of your bitterness and find Christ waiting there for you.

Revelation 3:20
Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.

Thank you for again confirming your ineptitude and the fraudulent claims of your story book jesus. For IF it is allegedly ' waiting somewhere ' OR literally ' standing at a doorway knocking ', then it proves as I stated already that it DID NOT literally ' die for us ' as claimed in story book Romans 5:8, but is a proven lying hypocrite, alive and well and rewarded for its unwarranted efforts. (Deuteronomy 24:16, Ezekiel 18:20) KJV story book

As far as your other slanderous allegation, I am far from ' bitter ' but rather joyous, that I have the ability to legitimately and successfully refute the christian dishonest ideology you and those like you attempt to curse us with.

You may feel sorry for me in your current deluded state, but I feel mostly joy for you that I and others have the patience and benevolence to correct those like you now and assist you out of your current pit of darkness and ineptitude.