Oil Problems comin' round the mountain

[Augustine2004]

Glenn, couldn't some of the deep oil wells be converted to generate geothermal power?

[grmorton]

That shows you know 0. The Navy got royalties of more than 100 mil smackeroos. You deserve a smack on your noggin.

Fine, smack me, but you have not yet even said anything substantive about China lake. This is like playing 20 questions. You have not stated what wonder machine the navy got royalties for that are going to save our cookies.

[grmorton]

Glenn, couldn't some of the deep oil wells be converted to generate geothermal power?

That is unlikely. They are not hot enough.

[Robert Byers]

Biblical creationist here.
oil is a friend to creationism as it shows the squeezed/heated life from the actions of the biblical flood or later post flood events.
Oil is from the dead remains of collected life from the biblical year.

[grmorton]

Biblical creationist here.
oil is a friend to creationism as it shows the squeezed/heated life from the actions of the biblical flood or later post flood events.
Oil is from the dead remains of collected life from the biblical year.

What a lot of hooey. Oil varies in chemical composition vertically in the geologic column. Oils in rocks prior to the Devonian lack vitrain--a chemical made only by plants. The devonian is about 25% up from the bottom of the geologic column. Please explain how trees were able to flee from the rising waters and avoid being deposited until 30% of the rock record was deposited.

Now before you claim that the plants floated above the waters and when waterlogged fell into the rock record and created this record, you need to also explain why angiosperms which make a chemical called oleanane (and this chemical is ONLY made by angiosperms) were able to not be buried when many other plants were able to be buried in the Devonian which lacks a single example of a fossil angiosperm. Classical geology says that the angiosperms hadn't evolved until the Cretaceous and they left their oleanane in oils younger than the Cretaceious (about 80% up the geologic column). Please explain how angiosperms which contain vitrain and Oleanane could have avoided being buried with the vitrain containing devonian plants.

If diatoms lived in the pre-flood oceans, you need to explain how 24-norcholestane, a chemical made only by diatoms only appears in oils that are about 50% up the geologic record. ~ A. G. Holba et al, "24-norcholestanes as Age-sensitive Molecular Fossils," Geology 26(1998):783-786, p. 783. These tiny animals would be in the flood waters and should have left their chemicals even in the earliest sediments--but they don't


Any comments about these problems. Did you even know of these problems?

[Augustine2004]

that are about 50% up the geologic record. ~ A. G. Holba et al, "24-norcholestanes

Shouldn't that be ' . . . 50% and above that level . . .'?

[Augustine2004]

Holy Leech, Glenn! ISL recovery for uranium to the rescue! In-situ Leach.

I'm uncertain how good this article is. FWIW a good start
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-situ_leach

[grmorton]

Holy Leech, Glenn! ISL recovery for uranium to the rescue! In-situ Leach.

I'm uncertain how good this article is. FWIW a good start
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-situ_leach

Augustine, rate of recovery is more important than anything. This article doesn't show that.

I thought I would post the big picture of my avatar, presented to me by KBertsche at my ranch last weekend and he and Oxmixmudd along with a couple of others showed up for a great weekend of philosophical discussions. I enjoyed it tremendously.

The second picture is from the ranch. From left to right, me, Gordon Simons, Bill Hamilton, TWer Kirk Bertsche, and TWer Jim Farlow (Oxmixmudd).

[grmorton]

Shouldn't that be ' . . . 50% and above that level . . .'?

Numbers approximate. If someone wants to correct the percent, I am fine with that.

[Augustine2004]

Numbers approximate. If someone wants to correct the percent, I am fine with that.

Ah, so you mean, the upper (most recent) half of the column?

[Robert Byers]

What a lot of hooey. Oil varies in chemical composition vertically in the geologic column. Oils in rocks prior to the Devonian lack vitrain--a chemical made only by plants. The devonian is about 25% up from the bottom of the geologic column. Please explain how trees were able to flee from the rising waters and avoid being deposited until 30% of the rock record was deposited.

Now before you claim that the plants floated above the waters and when waterlogged fell into the rock record and created this record, you need to also explain why angiosperms which make a chemical called oleanane (and this chemical is ONLY made by angiosperms) were able to not be buried when many other plants were able to be buried in the Devonian which lacks a single example of a fossil angiosperm. Classical geology says that the angiosperms hadn't evolved until the Cretaceous and they left their oleanane in oils younger than the Cretaceious (about 80% up the geologic column). Please explain how angiosperms which contain vitrain and Oleanane could have avoided being buried with the vitrain containing devonian plants.

If diatoms lived in the pre-flood oceans, you need to explain how 24-norcholestane, a chemical made only by diatoms only appears in oils that are about 50% up the geologic record. ~ A. G. Holba et al, "24-norcholestanes as Age-sensitive Molecular Fossils," Geology 26(1998):783-786, p. 783. These tiny animals would be in the flood waters and should have left their chemicals even in the earliest sediments--but they don't


Any comments about these problems. Did you even know of these problems?

I see no problems here. I welcome these facts.
One must remember the rock strata etc are from, below the k-p line for this YEC, the collected sediment pushed about by great power in the flood year. I see it from the power of the moving continents.
So one should expect that different areas produce different sediment. The columns of strata do not indicate age but only flow events in this or that area.
So in one area there is this kind of oil from this kind of life matter and in other areas different. it follows that the first layers laid here or there would be the lower sediment collects from the original seas, or from sorting issues, or any recipe of sediment collection.
The earth back then was probably very segregated in flora divisions and so no order in rock strata should be expected.

Oil is from squeezed life and this all in a sudden movement. Its not from zillions of years of slow deposition and reaction.
Its just what it looks like whereever found. Stuff made in a blender all at once.
The first conclusion and with Genesis boundaries the finale conclusion for reasonable deduction.

We are looking at the remains of a great event in earth history.

[Jorge]

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I thought I would post the big picture of my avatar, presented to me by KBertsche at my
ranch last weekend and he and Oxmixmudd along with a couple of others showed up
for a great weekend of philosophical discussions. I enjoyed it tremendously.

"... philosophical discussions" ... (?)

Oh, to have been a fly on the wall!

On second thought ... forget it.

The second picture is from the ranch. From left to right, me, Gordon Simons,
Bill Hamilton, TWer Kirk Bertsche, and TWer Jim Farlow (Oxmixmudd).

This picture proves forevermore that books absolutely cannot be judged by their cover.

Jorge

[rogue06]

Augustine, rate of recovery is more important than anything. This article doesn't show that.

I thought I would post the big picture of my avatar, presented to me by KBertsche at my ranch last weekend and he and Oxmixmudd along with a couple of others showed up for a great weekend of philosophical discussions. I enjoyed it tremendously.

The second picture is from the ranch. From left to right, me, Gordon Simons, Bill Hamilton, TWer Kirk Bertsche, and TWer Jim Farlow (Oxmixmudd).

That would have been quite an interesting weekend. Excuse me if I'm a bit jealous.

[Augustine2004]

Oil is from squeezed life and this all in a sudden movement. Its not from zillions of years of slow deposition and reaction.
Its just what it looks like whereever found. Stuff made in a blender all at once.
The first conclusion and with Genesis boundaries the finale conclusion for reasonable deduction.

Wow, it seems from that above that one could put grasses and other green vegative stuff into a blender. Whirr, whirr, whirr, then put in a pressure cooker and heat for hours???

[Augustine2004]

This picture proves forevermore that books absolutely cannot be judged by their cover.

Aren't you confused? Those guys dress like tramps, so from the way you quoted that proverb, I guess that implies their discussions were, like, wow.