Glasgow Rangers

[Darth Ovious]

I'm a happy man today. My team went out and done the business. Rangers are league champs once again. ya beauty.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/8062744.stm

I know there probably won't be many football fans on here, but I though I would share my joy anyway.

[Johnny MacManky]

[Darth Ovious]

I like the avatar.

[CodewordConduit]

Mon the gers....

[Johnny MacManky]

"Let's all laugh at Strachan, let's all laugh at Strachan... Ha ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha!" :gingernutloser:

[Darth Ovious]

"Let's all laugh at Strachan, let's all laugh at Strachan... Ha ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha!" :gingernutloser:

[The Curtmudgeon]

And then it all gets spoiled by some criminal idiots in Coleraine.

I vote they disband both Rangers and Celtics, and prohibit fitba in Glasgow at all.

The (you don't want to know what I want to put here) Curtmudgeon

[Darth Ovious]

And then it all gets spoiled by some criminal idiots in Coleraine.

I vote they disband both Rangers and Celtics, and prohibit fitba in Glasgow at all.

The (you don't want to know what I want to put here) Curtmudgeon

Me and Johnny will get you out the back later so we can beat the **** out of you.

But seriously, some things just get spoiled by a few idiots. It's always the way.

[The Curtmudgeon]

I'm not Catholic, so your threats don't scare me.

But seriously, it's the Protestants in N'orn Ireland and Glasgow that make me sympathetic to the Catholics there, regardless of theology. It's times like this that I can almost excuse the IRA. I certainly can understand them, anyhow.

I know it's not about religion, not really, anyway; I'm more aware of the history of the problem than most. But the culprits themselves make it difficult to separate the violence from religion. This man wasn't making a show of support for the opposite football team, after all, and he was a supporter of getting the Catholic community more involved in cross-community services such as the police, which the Catholics have long held to be prejudiced against them. They simply picked him because he was the first "Papist" they happened to come across, having deliberately entered a Catholic community for that sole purpose.

There's nothing Protestant or even Christian in them, but that's the label they choose to claim, and the "cause" in which they do murder.

The (it's days like this that I would willing swap my Irish & Scottish ethnicity and become a Hottentot) Curtmudgeon

[Darth Ovious]

I'm not Catholic, so your threats don't scare me.

Ah we'll beat you up anyway

But seriously, it's the Protestants in N'orn Ireland and Glasgow that make me sympathetic to the Catholics there, regardless of theology. It's times like this that I can almost excuse the IRA. I certainly can understand them, anyhow.

Seriously, both sides are as bad as each other. The Celtic support like to sing songs about the IRA shooting Nacho Novo, one of the Rangers players. Not exactly something that I would wish upon someone.

I know it's not about religion, not really, anyway; I'm more aware of the history of the problem than most. But the culprits themselves make it difficult to separate the violence from religion. This man wasn't making a show of support for the opposite football team, after all, and he was a supporter of getting the Catholic community more involved in cross-community services such as the police, which the Catholics have long held to be prejudiced against them. They simply picked him because he was the first "Papist" they happened to come across, having deliberately entered a Catholic community for that sole purpose.

Agreed, but as I've said above, both sides are guilty of predudice.

There's nothing Protestant or even Christian in them, but that's the label they choose to claim, and the "cause" in which they do murder.

That would be the same for some of the Celtic fans though who claim to be Catholic and yet don't even follow the religion in the slightest. This works both ways.

The (it's days like this that I would willing swap my Irish & Scottish ethnicity and become a Hottentot) Curtmudgeon

Unfortunately, it happens. I wouldn't worry about it. St mirren and Greenock Morton fans have a hefty rivalry too and thats not got any religious background to it at all. They just hate each others guts. Maybe it's the football thats the problem.

[Johnny MacManky]

I remember hearing of some West of Scotland bigots who approached a Muslim guy (who was prolly 3rd or 4th generation and thoroughly Scottish).

"So, ur ye a proddy or a tim?"

"Actually, I'm a Muslim."

"Aye, but ur ye a proddy or a cafflik Muslim?"

[The Curtmudgeon]

I don't want to leave the impression that I'm taking sides. If Celtic had won, and some group of murderous idiotic N'orn Irish Catholics had driven into a "Proddy" area to find and kill some innocent Presbyterian (or Anglican) family man in "celebration", my feelings -- anger, frustration, sorrow, bewilderment -- would be every bit the same. It's antiChristian coming from either side. "Christian"-on-"Christian" violence usually only shows that neither side has a justifiable claim to the name.

Nor am I going to go the route of saying, "Yeah, but it's almost always that particular side that starts stuff," because there's not that much truth there, either. Both sides are equally guilty.

But, why oh why does there have to be "Christian"-on-"Christian" violence anyway??? We had made some real progress in the North in recent years; even the UVF/UDA had finally officially disarmed last year, after trying for years to get the IRA to break their unilateral disarmament. All that they had succeeded in doing was driving the more bloody-minded into various splinter groups, while giving the "mainstream" IRA members the opportunity of demonstrating that they really did want to give non-violence a chance to succeed.

And people like these thugs -- and yes, including their opposite numbers on t'other side -- want to start the killing and the bombing and the desecration of the name of Christ all over again. A plague on both their houses.

The ("Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out.") Curtmudgeon

[Spacefoetus]

I live like about half an hour away from Coleraine. Everyone in our country is shocked and sickened by the actions of the "loyalist" thugs who murdered that poor man. I put loyalist in inverted commas, because what are they loyal to? Protestantism? They probably don't even believe in God.

On behalf of all the true Prods in northern ireland, can I just condemn this and any other "religious" violoence in my country. I can personally testify that the paramilitaries like the UDA and UVF don't care one bit about Christianity- they are only out for al the drug and protection money they can get their hands on.

And then theres the "continuity IRA" who think that by shooting dead two british soldiers who are too young to remember the Troubles they will liberate Catholics from the "british persecution" that doesn't even EXIST anymore.

Our country is getting better, and I pray that the day will come when these morons lose their voice.

[The Curtmudgeon]

I remember hearing of some West of Scotland bigots who approached a Muslim guy (who was prolly 3rd or 4th generation and thoroughly Scottish).

"So, ur ye a proddy or a tim?"

"Actually, I'm a Muslim."

"Aye, but ur ye a proddy or a cafflik Muslim?"

Yeah, to lighten up a bit here's my favourite N'orn Irish joke:

American tourist goes to Belfast. He's out seeing the sights, loses track of time, and finds himself wandering strange streets in the darkening twilight, trying to get back to his hotel. Suddenly, something very like a gun barrel is pressed into his back, and he hears a voice in his ear, "Are ye Protestant or Catholic?"

I'm dead, he thinks. If I say I'm Protestant, it's probably an IRA man and he'll kill me; if I say I'm Catholic, he's probably UDA and he'll kill me. So --

"I'm Jewish!" he says. Then his blood runs cold as he hears a fiendish chuckle followed by:

"And I'm the luckiest Arab in Belfast!"

The (but today it's not very funny to me) Curtmudgeon

[Darth Ovious]

I feel the same way. I hope that one day all the tension will be gone and no more violence will occur. Spacefoetus is right though, these people don't have anything to do with Christianity, they have other reasns why they do what they do, whether it's drug money or wanting Northern Ireland to leave the UK and join with the south.


Back to topic now. Here's the highlights of Rangers last game in which we won the tite.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/8066569.stm