Tekton was funny/ Thanks for the laugh!

[1970s]

I like that Job teaches that stars are anthropomorphic beings. It came from Enoch.

"Like the Bible, 1 Enoch typically depicts stars as living, anthropomorphic beings. The Sons of the Gods are also dealt with in 1 Enoch, and they are associated with stars. This is consistent with Job 38:7, which says that when the earth's cornerstone was laid “the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted aloud.”

As mentioned earlier, Matthew 24:29 and Revelation 6:13 deal with stars that fall to earth. The image comes from Enoch, but Matthew and John omit some details. In 1 Enoch 88:1, a star that fell from the sky is seized, bound hand and foot, and thrown into an abyss. A few verses later, other stars “whose sexual organs were like the organs of horses” are likewise bound hand and foot and cast “into the pits of the earth (1 Enoch 88:3).”

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm

Also God keeps Hail or snow in a storehouse, it's not kept anywhere, as drops of water fall from a cloud they crystallize and form with air particles into snow flakes. God would have said have you seen the water crystallize into the snow, not being kept in storehouse, (Job 38) you make God out to be a dope.
Your reasons for an inerrant Bible is to keep people believing that already do. Don't think for a second people on the fence about God are going to come to God if they believe all the excuses that site came up with to try to shed some hope on those contradictions. That is for people who want to keep believing in an all inspired inerrant Bible.
You people don't realize that normal people who see these hundreds of contradictions, are not going to buy into all those apologetics. So you give people the impression that if something in it is wrong, it is not the word of God and therefore ALL the Bible is all wrong. So when they don't believe your excuses, they don't believe. You would be better off saying it is not inerrant but is over all true. This way you give them a reason to believe in the Bible rather than the hundreds of apologetics. Also, they didn't cover many of them. Read Donald Morgan's list, a lot of them have not been covered by you people,

2KI 4:32-37 A dead child is raised (well before the time of Jesus).
MT 9:18-25, JN 11:38-44 Two dead persons are raised (by Jesus himself).
AC 26:23 Jesus was the first to rise from the dead.

All of the grass on the earth is burned up. Rev.8:7.
The army of locusts are instructed not to harm the grass. Rev.9:4.

Paul states that the law is necessary. Rom.3:31.
Paul states that the law is not necessary. Rom.6:14.

Paul said he would not be a servant of Christ if he tried to please men. Gal.1:10.
Paul said that he tried to please men. 1 Cor.10:33.

Do not boast. Lk.18:14.
Do not be proud. Rom.11:20; 1 Pet. 5:5.
Paul proudly boasts. 2 Cor.11:16-18; Gal.2:9-11.

JG 4:21 Sisera was sleeping when Jael killed him.
JG 5:25-27 Sisera was standing.

To name a few of the many.

They're also having a documentary on Darwin's missing link tonight on the History channel at 9 PM Eastern. So make sure you come up with some apologetics for that.
Your apologetics, the ones you did try to cover, (apart from the one you didn't) go far beyond their normal literal meaning. You reach far for answers apart from their related passages. There is something called the Golden rule of interpretation.
"When the plain sense of scripture
makes common sense, seek no other sense;
therefore, take every word
at its primary, ordinary, usual, literal meaning
unless the facts of the immediate context,
studied in the light of related passages
and axiomatic and fundamental truths,
indicate clearly otherwise."
I enjoyed trying to see you come up with literally hundreds and hundreds of excuses, to make some something full of contradictions and errors perfect.
If it was perfect or inspired by the spirit, it wouldn't appear to look like a book of contradictions or need your apologetics to cover what is on the surface, a book full of contradictions.
The book was to be understood by itself, not meant to be understood with your commentary of excuses.
Those excuses DO NOT ARISE FROM A NORMAL READING OF THE BIBLE. The Spirit would not have needed your help to make people not see contradictions in a perfect infallible book of God.
The God of that Bible kills infants...

1SA 15 "Yahway orders the killing of innocent infants (even those feeding on their mothers milk) and innocent animals!
This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling,"

Condones slavery! (Leviticus 25)

Orders the heads off of dead people (Numbers 25:4)

Orders the murder of children again, orders ARSON, theft, & terror!
(God is going to slay the sons and daughters of those whores, Oholah and Oholibah and burn down their houses as well as cut their noses and ears off, even take their clothes and & fine jewelry) God said that Oholibah wanted her lovers genitals to be the size of a donkeys, and their ejaculations to be like horses! Ezekiel 23 (God didn't like it that she likes big ones).
Yea God said that.
And said he will be the cause of pregnant women being ripped open. Hosea 13
You people out to be ashamed of yourselves.

[95th]

[95th]

2KI 4:32-37 A dead child is raised (well before the time of Jesus).
MT 9:18-25, JN 11:38-44 Two dead persons are raised (by Jesus himself).
AC 26:23 Jesus was the first to rise from the dead.

The first 3 were raised from death, they were not resurrected in a new perfect body like jesus was

[lao tzu]

How much do you love your Mac?

[ApologiaPhoenix]

I like that Job teaches that stars are anthropomorphic beings. It came from Enoch.

"Like the Bible, 1 Enoch typically depicts stars as living, anthropomorphic beings. The Sons of the Gods are also dealt with in 1 Enoch, and they are associated with stars. This is consistent with Job 38:7, which says that when the earth's cornerstone was laid “the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted aloud.”

As mentioned earlier, Matthew 24:29 and Revelation 6:13 deal with stars that fall to earth. The image comes from Enoch, but Matthew and John omit some details. In 1 Enoch 88:1, a star that fell from the sky is seized, bound hand and foot, and thrown into an abyss. A few verses later, other stars “whose sexual organs were like the organs of horses” are likewise bound hand and foot and cast “into the pits of the earth (1 Enoch 88:3).”

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm

Also God keeps Hail or snow in a storehouse, it's not kept anywhere, as drops of water fall from a cloud they crystallize and form with air particles into snow flakes. God would have said have you seen the water crystallize into the snow, not being kept in storehouse, (Job 38) you make God out to be a dope.

No. You make yourself out to be one who is a fundamentalist and takes everything literally while probably complaining that Christians take everything literally.

Your reasons for an inerrant bible is to keep people believing that already do. Don't think for a second people on the fence about God are going to come to God if they believe all the excuses that site came up with to try to shed some hope on those contradictions. That is for people who want to keep believing in an all inspired inerrant Bible.

Mind-reading a skill now?

You people don't realize that normal people who see these hundreds of contradictions, are not going to buy into all those apologetics.

Define "normal people."

So you give people the impression that if something in it is wrong, it is not the word of God and therefore ALL the Bible is all wrong.

More mind-reading

So when they don't believe your excuses, they don't believe. You would be better off saying it is not inerrant but is over all true. This way you give them a reason to believe in the Bible rather than the hundreds of apologetics. Also, they didn't cover many of them. Read Donald Morgan's list, a lot of them have not been covered by you people,

Here we go!

2KI 4:32-37 A dead child is raised (well before the time of Jesus).
MT 9:18-25, JN 11:38-44 Two dead persons are raised (by Jesus himself).
AC 26:23 Jesus was the first to rise from the dead.

First to rise by his own power never to die again.

All of the grass on the earth is burned up. Rev.8:7.
The army of locusts are instructed not to harm the grass. Rev.9:4.

Don't know much about apocalyptic literature huh? This is quite a good argument against many a futurist reading however.

Paul states that the law is necessary. Rom.3:31.
Paul states that the law is not necessary. Rom.6:14.

What version are you reading?

Paul said he would not be a servant of Christ if he tried to please men. Gal.1:10.
Paul said that he tried to please men. 1 Cor.10:33.

One says he tried. One says he didn't. There's a difference.

Do not boast. Lk.18:14.
Do not be proud. Rom.11:20; 1 Pet. 5:5.
Paul proudly boasts. 2 Cor.11:16-18; Gal.2:9-11.

Boast about what?

JG 4:21 Sisera was sleeping when Jael killed him.
JG 5:25-27 Sisera was standing.

Don't know much about poetry huh?

To name a few of the many.

They're also having a documentary on Darwin's missing link tonight on the History channel at 9 PM Eastern. So make sure you come up with some apologetics for that.

Psssh. Like I care much either way.

our apologetics, the ones you did try to cover, (apart from the one you didn't) go far beyond their normal literal meaning. You reach far for answers apart from their related passages. There is something called the Golden rule of interpretation.
"When the plain sense of scripture
makes common sense, seek no other sense;
therefore, take every word
at its primary, ordinary, usual, literal meaning
unless the facts of the immediate context,
studied in the light of related passages
and axiomatic and fundamental truths,
indicate clearly otherwise."
I enjoyed trying to see you come up with literally hundreds and hundreds of excuses, to make some something full of contradictions and errors perfect.

I enjoyed your vain attempt to try to show a contradiction. It was just pathetic.

If it was perfect or inspired by the spirit, it wouldn't appear to look like a book of contradictions or need your apologetics to cover what is on the surface, a book full of contradictions.

Why should I believe this?

The book was to be understood by itself, not meant to be understood with your commentary of excuses.

Why should I believe this?

Those excuses DO NOT ARISE FROM A NORMAL READING OF THE BIBLE. The Spirit would not have needed your help to make people not see contradictions in a perfect infallible book of God.

Again, why should I believe this?

The God of that Bible kills infants...

1SA 15 "Yahway orders the killing of innocent infants (even those feeding on their mothers milk) and innocent animals!
This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling,"

Condones slavery! (Leviticus 25)

Please tell me what you've read on the ANE.

Orders the heads off of dead people (Numbers 25:4)

What version are you reading?!

Orders the murder of children again, orders ARSON, theft, & terror!
(God is going to slay the sons and daughters of those whores, Oholah and Oholibah and burn down their houses as well as cut their noses and ears off, even take their clothes and & fine jewelry) God said that Oholibah wanted her lovers genitals to be the size of a donkeys, and their ejaculations to be like horses! Ezekiel 23 (God didn't like it that she likes big ones).
Yea God said that.

The problem?

And said he will be the cause of pregnant women being ripped open. Hosea 13

Where does verse 16 say he is the cause.

You people out to be ashamed of yourselves.

That's odd. I feel just fine.

[1970s]

Here are a few more for you

Jesus and his disciples taught in Capernaum. Mk.1:20,21.
Only Jesus taught in Capernaum. Lk.4:30,31.

Peter was chosen, with Andrew, by the Sea of Galilee. Mt.4:18-20; Mk.1:16-18.
Peter was chosen, with James and John, by the lake of Gennesaret. Lk.5:2-11.
Andrew chose Jesus and then got Peter to join. Jn.1:35-42.

Jesus cured Simon Peter's mother-in-law after he cleansed the leper. Mt.8:1-15.
Jesus cured Simon Peter's mother-in-law before he cleansed the leper. Mk.1:30-42; Lk.4:38 to 5:13.

Peter's mother-in-law was healed before Peter was called to be a disciple. Lu.4:38,39; 5:10.
Peter's mother-in-law was healed after Peter was called to be a disciple. Mt.4:18,19; 8:14,15; Mk.1:16,17,30,31.

The people were not impressed with the feeding of the multitude. Mk.6:52.
The people were very impressed with the feeding of the multitude. Jn.6:14.

After the feeding of the multitude, Jesus went to Gennesaret. Mk.6:53.
After the feeding of the multitude, Jesus went to Capernaum. Jn.6:14-17.

Jesus healed all that were sick. Mt.8:16; Lk.4:40.
Jesus healed many that were sick - but not all. Mk.1:34.

Mary first saw Jesus at the tomb. Jn.20:11-15.
Mary first saw Jesus on her way home. Mt.28:8-10.

Jesus ascended on the third day after the resurrection. Lk.24:21,50,51.
Jesus ascended forty days after the resurrection. Acts 1:3,9.

Abraham was justified by faith. Heb.11:8.
Abraham was justified by works. Jms.2:21.
Abraham was not justified by works. Rom.4:2.

Jesus was tempted during the 40 days in the wilderness. Mk.1:13.
Jesus was tempted after the 40 days in the wilderness. Mt.4:2,3.

Jesus begins his ministry after John's arrest. Mk.1:13,14.
Jesus begins his ministry before John's arrest. Jn.3:22-24.

[ApologiaPhoenix]

1970's. You respond to what we've said and then we respond again. Other than that, I don't waste my time with people who want to talk and not listen.

[lao tzu]

I think he's running IE, Nick.

[1970s]

Lol!

[Findo]

1970s - Don Carson wrote an article called 'Why must I learn to interpret the bible?' which deals with the basics of hermeneutics. You would be well advised to read it before trotting out these tired and sufficiently debunked 'contradictions'. Also, perhaps a quick read of the Chicago Statement on Inerrancy would inform you of what most evangelicals actually believe inerrency to mean.

[1970s]

How can hey be debunked when they were not even touched upon.
Read Donald Morgan's list.

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[ApologiaPhoenix]

How can hey be debunked when they were not even touched upon.
Read Donald Morgan's list.

They were. It's not my problem if you don't like the answers and just want to jump up and down and say that the answers aren't accurate.

[1970s]

No they were not my friend... there were no answers at all.
Those were just a few of them... and the answers to about 75% of the ones they tried to solve were far reaching... but the ones I posted had no far fetched answers.
Have a nice day....

[ApologiaPhoenix]

No they were not my friend... there were no answers at all.
Those were just a few of them... and the answers to about 75% of the ones they tried to solve were far reaching... but the ones I posted had no far fetched answers.
Have a nice day....

I don't accept just assertions. Please go through and show where the replies are wrong.