The Moral Argument for God's Existence

[guacamole]

The “objective baseline” and “operative standard” for any given community is the maintenance of the group, which is essential for the survival of a social species such as us. And we do this by the imposition of community rules, based upon community values.

So are you wanting to argue then that the maintenance of the group is the fundamental, unchanging and objective moral law?

[JimL]

So are you wanting to argue then that the maintenance of the group is the fundamental, unchanging and objective moral law?

As far as morality goes, I would argue just that, though what exactly those fundemental objective moral laws would be are not exactly known.

[Tassman]

So are you wanting to argue then that the maintenance of the group is the fundamental, unchanging and objective moral law?

The maintenance of a cohesive group is an instinctive survival mechanism for social species such as humans. It’s not a “moral law”. It’s the rules of behaviour that implement and reinforce this natural instinct that constitutes moral law. And they change according to the changing values of the group, they’re not “unchanging and objective...although many of the basics remain the same, e.g. the proscription against murder.