Is anybody else enjoying watching what is happening in Iran?

[Cow Poke]

OK, HOLD your wrath!!!

I don't mean "enjoy" in the sense of taking it lightly or being amused...
I mean... this seems to be potentially WORLD CHANGING!
and my prayers are with the people of Iran.

But the fact is that Iran's leader is a holocaust denier, a nuclear proliferator, has threatened the destruction of Israel, is reportedly supporting the Islamic terrorist groups, and, in short, is a nutcase, IMO.

The first day or two, I thought, "ok, this is a 'flash in the pan' and soon Iran will return to being Iran"...

NOW, I'm not so sure... it is possible, as I said, that this is truly historic and world changing!

Comments?

http://www.slate.com/id/2220795/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...eal_97060.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/20/wo...n.html?_r=1&hp

[Sparko]

first I heard of it.

hmm. If the vote wasn't fixed and Ahmadinejad won by a landslide, then it would seem that there would be nobody to protest. The fact that the protests are causing problems shows that apparently a large segment of the people did NOT vote for Ahmadinejad.

[Cow Poke]

first I heard of it.

hmm. If the vote wasn't fixed and Ahmadinejad won by a landslide, then it would seem that there would be nobody to protest. The fact that the protests are causing problems shows that apparently a large segment of the people did NOT vote for Ahmadinejad.

AND, they are quite unhappy... some analysts even believe this is a rejection of the Islamic system... though that's a bit optimistic, IMO....

I DO think that a large number of Iranians are really tired of hearing their "leader" further isolate themselves from the world.

[Philosophickle]

The rallies are stirring a little bit of hope in me, but we must remember that Mousavi is only moderate in comparison with his competition. He is still a backwards, fear-mongering opportunist who has had a significant role in his countries attainment of nuclear capabilities.

[Sparko]

but how would we know if the new guy would be any better?


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PS What does "The Olectual" mean in your website?

[Cow Poke]

but how would we know if the new guy would be any better?

Exactly ... the devil you know, vs....
but we know a LITTLE about the opposition candidate, and he's less radical, supposedly...
but that's always a valid point when you're dealing with an entity like Iran.

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PS What does "The Olectual" mean in your website?
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Could it be like Oleo in the old days? (You're probably too young too remember when "fake butter" was called oleo - like oleomargerine)

[Augustine2004]

first I heard of it.

hmm. If the vote wasn't fixed and Ahmadinejad won by a landslide, then it would seem that there would be nobody to protest. The fact that the protests are causing problems shows that apparently a large segment of the people did NOT vote for Ahmadinejad.

Ahmy is not the leader by any stretch of meaning. Being president of Iran is not at all like being POTUS. A religious leader whose name escapes me is the most powerful in Iran.

I'm not sure what the protests were for, but I doubt they'd be world-changing. The fall of the American empire would be, though.

[Cow Poke]

Ahmy is not the leader by any stretch of meaning. Being president of Iran is not at all like being POTUS.

Yes, clearly understood... but he's the nut behind the wheel who interfaces with the rest of the world.

A religious leader whose name escapes me is the most powerful in Iran.

Ali Khamenei

I'm not sure what the protests were for, but I doubt they'd be world-changing. The fall of the American empire would be, though.

IF (and this is a BIG if) the protests are rejecting this puppet regime system (and it seems to appear so based on the refusal of the protesters to subside at the request of the mullahs) then it WOULD be world changing, particularly for Israel.

[Augustine2004]

Yes, clearly understood... but he's the nut behind the wheel who interfaces with the rest of the world.

I fail to see why we should pay so much attention to Ahmy.

IF (and this is a BIG if) the protests are rejecting this puppet regime system (and it seems to appear so based on the refusal of the protesters to subside at the request of the mullahs) then it WOULD be world changing, particularly for Israel.

Another war in the Middle East = world-changing? I'd agree that if peace broke out everywhere in the MidEast, that would be historic.

[themuzicman]

Prediction:

A replay of Tienanmen Square forthcoming.

Michael

[Michelle]

Prediction:

A replay of Tienanmen Square forthcoming.

Michael

I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday, muz.

[Cow Poke]

I fail to see why we should pay so much attention to Ahmy.

like it or not, he is the "face" of Iran... he couldnt say or do what he says or does without the "blessings" of the powers behind him.

Another war in the Middle East = world-changing? I'd agree that if peace broke out everywhere in the MidEast, that would be historic.

Who's talking about war? I'm talking about revolution in Iran.

[Cow Poke]

Prediction:

A replay of Tienanmen Square forthcoming.

Michael

That most CERTAINLY is a real possibility!

[Sparko]

The muslim dictatorships are usually more subtle than the Chinese when it comes to controlling the masses. I see a round of Sharia trials coming up, focusing on key dissidents.

[Augustine2004]

The neocons prefer Ahmy as president. He’s their favorite whipping boy in Iran. ‘The latest Hitler.’ Things like that.

It doesn't seem like what the protests are about, even in part, though.