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  • #61
    Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
    Haha, ahh, now you're an IT expert and you've got your MBA! Good show! Where do you find the time?
    Wow I never seen you so flustered and at a loss for a good argument. All you are doing now are comments from the peanut gallery, instead of your normal elocutionary self.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      My brother-in-law has his. And we talk. And I ask questions. Corporate profits are the very basics of business. One doesn't need an MBA to understand that entry level economic fact.
      Ahh, gotcha, when you chat with experts it counts, but when I do it...

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
        I got an idea, how about you don't pretend that "us libs" are somehow opposed to those people having jobs still? It's a ridiculous claim and you, absolutely, deserve to be giggled at over it.
        So you are glad that Carrier and Trump has saved 800 jobs then?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
          This post reads like the rest of mine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and are you really shrugging off the duping? You seem to have just written that being duped by a billionaire who played the working class like a fiddle would be worth it because it made liberals look bad.
          Let's say that eventually it becomes clear that Trump was duping those people - what have they lost? They've had the pleasure of seeing folks like you get all bent out of shape; Hillary 'I should be 50 points ahead' Clinton get taken down for her arrogance and the polices were basically status quo... That's abetter deal than anything other conservatives have delivered in the recent past.

          Originally posted by Jaecp
          Not that the media has been "exposed" as you claim (their failures are of a different variety)
          Plenty of people have been made far more aware that the MSM dishonestly presents things in favour of their pet political candidates and against those they dislike politically. You just buy into their lies more than the average non-liberal. That they also goofed big time in their predictions is just... ...great.

          Originally posted by Jaecp
          nor has the progressive narrative been shot full of holes,
          Trump is racist - shot down

          Trump supporters are violent - who is out there rioting? Who beats up people who voted for the other side's candidate? Who supports violent groups like BLM?

          Conservatives are bigots - who called the other side's supporters 'deplorables'? Who carries on with the derogatory labelling?

          Trump could never win - shot down

          Originally posted by Jaecp
          more people wanted Hillary to be President then Trump to the tune of about 2 and a half million after all, so aside from you shooting off your mouth your post here is kinda boring.
          Yeah, it's great how the American 'democratic' system works. Maybe California and some of the other 'Democrat' states could secede? Thanx bye
          ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            Wow I never seen you so flustered and at a loss for a good argument. All you are doing now are comments from the peanut gallery, instead of your normal elocutionary self.
            I'm catching a bus in 6 hours to go to North Dakota as part of the national veterans call to assist at the DAPL protests so I don't have the time (as police are using cell phone jammers) nor the ability (as I'm not bringing my laptop) to engage in a full length debate right now and, honestly Sparks, I really don't see anything worth responding to here. Should I spend time asking you why you assumed "us libs" want these men out of a job? That was a very dumb way to phrase an insulting question and I honestly hope you were intentionally screwing with me because if that is authentic you then damn. Should i respond, in depth, to MM's Nice/Mean post that does not reflect, at all, what I wrote? Maybe I should make fun of Bill more for saying Shuny believes something absolutely ridiculous. The only people to actually respond to my comments that are the threads topic are Max and Demi. I responded to Max, and with more seriousness than I've responded with to you or Bill, and ignored Demi because he's either an idiot or a troll and I don't care which.

            You guys want serious replies, give serious replies. You guys are posting snark so I'm going to make fun of you until you give me something worthwhile to respond to.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
              I'm catching a bus in 6 hours to go to North Dakota as part of the national veterans call to assist at the DAPL protests so I don't have the time (as police are using cell phone jammers) nor the ability (as I'm not bringing my laptop) to engage in a full length debate right now and, honestly Sparks, I really don't see anything worth responding to here. Should I spend time asking you why you assumed "us libs" want these men out of a job? That was a very dumb way to phrase an insulting question and I honestly hope you were intentionally screwing with me because if that is authentic you then damn. Should i respond, in depth, to MM's Nice/Mean post that does not reflect, at all, what I wrote? Maybe I should make fun of Bill more for saying Shuny believes something absolutely ridiculous. The only people to actually respond to my comments that are the threads topic are Max and Demi. I responded to Max, and with more seriousness than I've responded with to you or Bill, and ignored Demi because he's either an idiot or a troll and I don't care which.

              You guys want serious replies, give serious replies. You guys are posting snark so I'm going to make fun of you until you give me something worthwhile to respond to.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
                I'm catching a bus in 6 hours to go to North Dakota as part of the national veterans call to assist at the DAPL protests so I don't have the time (as police are using cell phone jammers) nor the ability (as I'm not bringing my laptop) to engage in a full length debate right now and, honestly Sparks, I really don't see anything worth responding to here. Should I spend time asking you why you assumed "us libs" want these men out of a job? That was a very dumb way to phrase an insulting question and I honestly hope you were intentionally screwing with me because if that is authentic you then damn. Should i respond, in depth, to MM's Nice/Mean post that does not reflect, at all, what I wrote? Maybe I should make fun of Bill more for saying Shuny believes something absolutely ridiculous. The only people to actually respond to my comments that are the threads topic are Max and Demi. I responded to Max, and with more seriousness than I've responded with to you or Bill, and ignored Demi because he's either an idiot or a troll and I don't care which.

                You guys want serious replies, give serious replies. You guys are posting snark so I'm going to make fun of you until you give me something worthwhile to respond to.
                Don't you gotta wonder just why so many people so thoroughly wanted to stick a finger in the establishment's face that they voted for someone like Trump, warts and all? And yet large chunks of the left persist in doubling down on the name-calling, distortions, bullying tactics.. ..just what helped Trump get elected in the first place.
                ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
                  Ahh, gotcha, when you chat with experts it counts, but when I do it...
                  On basics, yes it counts.
                  That's what
                  - She

                  Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                  I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                  - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
                    Let's say that eventually it becomes clear that Trump was duping those people - what have they lost? They've had the pleasure of seeing folks like you get all bent out of shape; Hillary 'I should be 50 points ahead' Clinton get taken down for her arrogance and the polices were basically status quo... That's abetter deal than anything other conservatives have delivered in the recent past.
                    What have they lost? In the dupe scenario Trump is literally passing policies to benefit men like himself instead of benefiting the country at large. Duping means that he was never going to even try to get those various things that got Seer and the rest of the posters here all hot and bothered.



                    Plenty of people have been made far more aware that the MSM dishonestly presents things in favour of their pet political candidates and against those they dislike politically. You just buy into their lies more than the average non-liberal. That they also goofed big time in their predictions is just... ...great.
                    I would agree with this except for the fact that I watched video of those rallies he hosted, watched his speeches, and so on. The media didn't have to do much more than turn on the camera, let Trump talk, and then say "damn, can you believe he just said that?" after the cavalcade of lies that came out of his mouth. And I don't think the predictions made much of a goof at all, actually. The October surprises were real. Comey almost assuredly violated the Hatch act. Oh, and 2.5 million more people voted for Hillary than Trump. His victory came down to, as of last night, 80k votes in WI/MI/PA. The prediction being wrong does not make the prediction bad.


                    1. Trump is racist - shot down

                    2. Trump supporters are violent - who is out there rioting? Who beats up people who voted for the other side's candidate? Who supports violent groups like BLM?

                    3. Conservatives are bigots - who called the other side's supporters 'deplorables'? Who carries on with the derogatory labelling?

                    4. Trump could never win - shot down
                    1. Oh?

                    2. Protest /= Rioting. I fully support police removing violent protesters which, as you know, are a small minority of the people at these things and the peaceful ones don't want the violent ones to be there either.

                    3. You never actually watched the speech, did you? She described 2 groups, the deplorables (aka: the White Nationalist part of Trump's supporter base) and the people who aren't deplorable (everyone else). As for who carries on with the derogatory labeling? Oh my, I'm so sorry that she called a bunch of white nationalists deplorable and then the white nationalists on reddit pretended that she was calling all of Trumps supporters that

                    4. None of the polls I ever saw gave Trump a 0% chance.

                    Yeah, it's great how the American 'democratic' system works. Maybe California and some of the other 'Democrat' states could secede? Thanx bye
                    Did you move to the States recently or something? Why do you care?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
                      Don't you gotta wonder just why so many people so thoroughly wanted to stick a finger in the establishment's face that they voted for someone like Trump, warts and all? And yet large chunks of the left persist in doubling down on the name-calling, distortions, bullying tactics.. ..just what helped Trump get elected in the first place.
                      I don't care what large chunks of the left are doing. I'm invested in figuring out how best to reach the WWC because I believe their economic interests are better served by demand side economic policies instead of supply side economic policies and it bothers me that wedge social issues have been used to prevent solid, demand side economic policy from helping to lift those individuals out of poverty. I grew up poor and I'd still be living in a small town if I hadn't enlisted and gotten an education, seen the world, seen the consequences of war with my own eyes. All my friends from highschool? All but one still works menial labor, the lucky one is a teacher.

                      So, yeah, Max, I do wonder about all that stuff. Why the heck do you think I post here? It's certainly not for the various members charming dispositions.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
                        ...more people wanted Hillary to be President then Trump to the tune of about 2 and a half million...
                        Yep, she made out like a bandit with the illegal vote.
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          Yep, she made out like a bandit with the illegal vote.
                          Nonsense and you know it. Where's the proof?

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
                            When? Before or after we knew the full story? The details only came to light within the last couple days, but we've been hearing about this supposed "Saving" of like 800 jobs for how long?

                            Let's be perfectly clear here, while campaigning Trump made fun of bribing companies to stay in the US. He said it didn't work. He said he was going to put taxes, although I think he meant Tariffs, on companies bringing in products that they had previously made in the US. He made fun of those cheap loans, the tax abatements, and all those forms of bribery.

                            Meanwhile, he does that exact thing that he said didn't work and doesn't do what he said did work. Yall got duped.
                            He commended it on a video that he apparently posted yesterday. And it looked like a video he did at the last minute right before he uploaded. What news would have changed between now and then that would have changed his mind?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Jaecp View Post
                              I'm catching a bus in 6 hours to go to North Dakota as part of the national veterans call to assist at the DAPL protests ...
                              Why is this not surprising? Are you going to be one of the paid thugs, or did you get fooled into doing this for free? And "national" veterans? You mean THIS group?

                              DAPL.jpg
                              Last edited by Cow Poke; 12-02-2016, 10:24 AM.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #75
                                Source: Breitbart

                                (Oct 2, 2016) Virginia’s election officials are enabling illegal registration and voting by foreign citizens, according to an extensive new study, titled “Alien Invasion in Virginia,” by a former Department of Justice civil rights lawyer.

                                “Virginia election officials don’t seem to care that thousands of [foreign] aliens have corrupted their voter rolls,” by illegally registering to vote, said J. Christian Adams, the former Department of Justice lawyer, and now the president of the Public Interest Legal Foundation. “Even worse than doing nothing about it, they are trying to cover it up,” he told Breitbart News.

                                [...]

                                The new report is a partnership of the Virginia Voters Alliance and the Public Interest Legal Foundation, and it details how at least 1,046 non-citizens were allowed to vote based on official voting records, he said.

                                State-wide, “the problem is most certainly exponentially worse [than seen in the eight localities] because we have no data regarding aliens on the registration rolls for the other 125 Virginia localities,” the report said. “When the voting history of this small sample of alien registrants is examined, nearly 200 verified ballots were cast before they were removed from the rolls. Each one of them is likely a felony.”

                                http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...fraud-coverup/

                                © Copyright Original Source


                                Source: Investor's Business Daily

                                (Nov 28, 2016) ...it's almost certain that illegals did vote — and in significant numbers. Whether it was three million or not is another question.

                                While states control the voter registration process, some states are so notoriously slipshod in their controls (California, Virginia and New York — all of which have political movements to legalize voting by noncitizens — come to mind) that it would be shocking if many illegals didn't vote. Remember, a low-ball estimate says there are at least 11 million to 12 million illegals in the U.S., but that's based on faulty Census data. More likely estimates put the number at 20 million to 30 million.

                                [...]

                                But there is evidence to back Trump's claims. A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.

                                "We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

                                More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."

                                Specifically, the authors say that illegals may have cast as many as 2.8 million votes in 2008 and 2010. That's a lot of votes. And when you consider the population of illegal inhabitants has only grown since then, it's not unreasonable to suppose that their vote has, too.

                                http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...-vote-in-2016/

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                                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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