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    Quote Originally Posted by Seve View Post
    Remember, the 1st heaven or universe was Adam's world (Gen 1:6-8 KJV), which was "clean dissolved" in the Flood. The present Universe is the 2nd Heaven, our world, made Billions of years AFTER Adam's world was made, and is also doomed for destruction and will be dissolved too. The 3rd Heaven or world is where Christians will go AFTER our world is burned Rev 21.

    [Rev 21:1 KJV] And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

    Of course, it’s entirely New Heaven and New Earth, compare to the first that was totally destroyed the 2nd that is also doomed to be destroyed..... therefore, God made us a Multiverse. Amen!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansgeorg View Post
    Quoting with my added emphasis by underlining:


    Where do you get billions of years from?

    We live today at Gen 1:27 since God is STILL creating mankind in His Image or in Christ, as ANY Church will tell you. That means that ALL Humans have lived and died*on the present 6th Day or Age, which will NOT end until AFTER Jesus returns at the end of time, and changes EVERY creature into Vegetarians, Gen 1:30*BEFORE the present 6th Day ends.*

    There is no interpretation needed since Science has measured the time since the Big Bang at 13.7 Billion years ago, and God shows it was 3 Days or Ages ago, which means that EACH of God's Days is some 4.5 Billion years in length, in man's time. God's Truth is the Truth Scientifically, Historically, and in EVERY other way, IF you can understand God's Holy Word.

    We live in a Multiverse. Gen 1:6-8 shows one and Gen 2:4 shows other heavenS being made on another Day.*That's a Multiverse, containing at least 2 or more separate universes. Gen 2:4-7 shows that Adam was made on the SAME Day as the Big Bang of our Cosmos, but unbelievers tell us ancient men authored this?. I don't believe that.

    Only God, the Supreme Intelligence of Creation, the Creator who CANNOT Lie would get these things scientifically correct, even today.*I like the FACT that Gen 2:4 shows that the Big Bang of our world was on the*THIRD Day*and the FIRST Stars of our Cosmos did NOT put forth their Light until the*FOURTH Day. Gen 1:16[/b]

    Science has recently learned that it took Hundreds of Millions of years AFTER the Big Bang BEFORE the FIRST Stars put forth their Light. It's PROOF that ONLY God could have written Genesis.

    God and true science discoveries are in agreement.

    God bless
    Last edited by Seve; 12-11-2016 at 12:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seve View Post
    We live today at Gen 1:27 since God is STILL creating mankind in His Image or in Christ, as ANY Church will tell you. That means that ALL Humans have lived and died*on the present 6th Day or Age, which will NOT end until AFTER Jesus returns at the end of time, and changes EVERY creature into Vegetarians, Gen 1:30*BEFORE the present 6th Day ends.*
    I think there is a difference between:

    * creation of man as a species in God's image, by creation of its first parents
    and
    * sanctification of saved mankind, creating or reshaping it in His image, in the Church;

    and similarily between:
    * 6th day as a day in Creation week
    and
    * sixth age, typefied by the sixth day in creation week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seve View Post
    There is no interpretation needed since Science has measured the time since the Big Bang at 13.7 Billion years ago, and God shows it was 3 Days or Ages ago, which means that EACH of God's Days is some 4.5 Billion years in length, in man's time. God's Truth is the Truth Scientifically, Historically, and in EVERY other way, IF you can understand God's Holy Word.
    Feel free to say what methods scientists use when they pretend to "measure the time since the Big Bang".

    I am there to refute them, as long as I can.

    As for "science", that is the name of an activity, like singing. Saying people sing in Wozzek doesn't specify whether they sing well or false.
    http://notontimsblogroundhere.blogspot.fr/p/apologetics-section.html

    Thanks, Sparko, for telling how I add the link here!

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    Dear hansgeorg ,

    It's simple to know if one's interpretation is correct. If it agrees with God's Holy Word, true Science, and History, it's as close to the One Truth as is Humanly possible. The fault is Not with God's Truth, but with man's ability to understand it, for His thoughts are far above man's thoughts.

    There’s not one Truth for Science and another one for Christian believers. When you find God’s Truth, both Truth agrees with the One Truth or else you have not found God's Truth. And most likely, your interpretation of the Scripture is wrong!

    The Scripture documents us that there’s only one Truth...... and Jesus says He is the Truth....

    I can’t wait to find the One Truth..... face to face. How about you?

    God bless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seve View Post
    Dear hansgeorg ,

    It's simple to know if one's interpretation is correct. If it agrees with God's Holy Word, true Science, and History, it's as close to the One Truth as is Humanly possible. The fault is Not with God's Truth, but with man's ability to understand it, for His thoughts are far above man's thoughts.

    There’s not one Truth for Science and another one for Christian believers. When you find God’s Truth, both Truth agrees with the One Truth or else you have not found God's Truth. And most likely, your interpretation of the Scripture is wrong!

    The Scripture documents us that there’s only one Truth...... and Jesus says He is the Truth....

    I can’t wait to find the One Truth..... face to face. How about you?

    God bless

    Except you are showing that you neither understand the Bible, nor science. You just seem to be mixing up erroneous assumptions about each into some weird amalgam of nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Except you are showing that you neither understand the Bible, nor science. You just seem to be mixing up erroneous assumptions about each into some weird amalgam of nonsense.
    I support ALL my posts with Scripture.....together with true science and history if necessary. If you disagree, then post your contradicting view with Scripture..... contrary to what I have posted or it will just remain UNCONTESTED! Thanks

    God bless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seve View Post
    I support ALL my posts with Scripture.....together with true science and history if necessary. If you disagree, then post your contradicting view with Scripture..... contrary to what I have posted or it will just remain UNCONTESTED! Thanks

    God bless

    well you never supported any of this from scripture:
    Adam's earth is considered FLAT and much smaller than our present world - It had only 4 Rivers, which all ran out of the Garden of Eden .... compared to our present world, we have thousands of Rivers all over the face of our earth. The elevation of their highest mountain (Adam’s world) was only 15 cubits high (22 1/2 ft.) while our highest mountain here on our earth measures some 29k ft. Above sea level.

  7. Amen hansgeorg amen'd this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seve View Post
    I support ALL my posts with Scripture.....together with true science and history if necessary.
    While supposing, erroneously, that billions of years is "true science".
    http://notontimsblogroundhere.blogspot.fr/p/apologetics-section.html

    Thanks, Sparko, for telling how I add the link here!

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    Isa 24:18-20 is like a double edge sword....*and speaking of Noah’s Flood, since this is obviously the account of the 1st Earth being clean dissolved*in water*when the windows of their heaven were opened. It's speaking of Adam's world being completely destroyed in water during the Flood.*

    However, it is also set up as a*Snare or Trap....to catch those willingly ignorant unbelievers of this last days. Here’s the context of the snare or a trap, below.

    Isa 24:18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare:*for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake. v19*The earth is utterly broken down,*the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. v20*The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

    Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe this... that all the inhabitants thereof (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth were totally destroyed / dissolved in the flood....*

    2Pe 3:5*For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old,*and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: v6 Whereby the world (Greek-Kosmos) that*then was, being overflowed with water, perished: (Greek-destroyed, totally)

    These verses from the Old and New Testament confirm that Adam's world, the world that then was, was totally destroyed in the Flood..... and that the heavens and earth which are now will also be dissolved by fire.

    Scoffers, of the end of time, will be "willingly ignorant" of this event which Isaiah describes. In fact, the same word (”dissolved” )-*is used again and kept in store*to describe the upcoming prophecy of the new heaven and earth which are now, reserved for fire - and will melt and shall be “dissolved” , by its fervent heat.

    2Pe 3:7*But the heavens and the earth,*which are now,*by the same word are kept in store ("dissolved")*, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

    2PE 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,*wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?


    However, in spite of all of these Jesus said....

    Jhn 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. v2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.


    God bless

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