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    China Agrees to Return Seized Drone



    BEIJING — The Pentagon on Saturday said that Beijing had agreed to return an underwater drone seized by China in international waters, an indication that the two countries were moving to resolve an unusual incident that risked sharpening tensions in the run-up to the inauguration of President-elect Donald J. Trump.

    “Through direct engagement with Chinese authorities, we have secured an understanding that the Chinese will return the U.U.V. to the United States,” said Peter Cook, the Pentagon press secretary, using initials to refer to the Navy’s unmanned underwater vehicle.

    Mr. Cook said the deal had been reached after the United States “registered our objection to China’s unlawful seizure of a U.S. unmanned underwater vehicle operating in international waters in the South China Sea.”

    The Chinese authorities told American officials that they planned to return the drone, but the two sides were still working out where, when and precisely how the device would be handed back, said two Defense Department officials, both of whom would talk about the negotiations with China only on the condition of anonymity. One of the officials said the Pentagon expected the matter to be resolved in the coming days without further acrimony.
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    The Pentagon statement came hours after China warned that the highly charged episode would not be resolved easily.

    In a statement late Saturday, the Chinese Defense Ministry said it was in talks with the United States but criticized Washington for what it called an “inappropriate” exaggeration of the dispute. The American reaction, it said, is “not conducive to solving the problem smoothly.”

    “We hereby express regrets for that,” it said.

    Although the ministry said the drone would be returned to the United States in a “proper way,” the statement stopped short of saying when or how the device, which Chinese and American analysts say was most likely used to gather intelligence about Chinese submarine activity in contested waters, would be returned, or if it would be handed back intact.

    President-elect Donald J. Trump entered the fray Saturday morning, accusing China on Twitter of acting improperly. “China steals United States Navy research drone in international waters — rips it out of water and takes it to China in unprecedented act,” he said.


    There are so many aspects of this about which I am curious.
    • Early reports stressed this was not a military application, but simply a drone to map the bottom of the sea. That, of course, made me suspicious.
    • China is promising to return the drone - but I'm guessing they're examining, and possibly reverse engineering it as we speak.
    • Given the Obama administration's HORRIBLE negotiation 'skilz', I'm wondering if a plane load of unmarked currency is headed to China.
    • This kinda reminds me of the intelligence coup China gained when they disassembled a US Navy EP3 spy plane that landed at China's Lingshui base, and subsequently returned it in pieces.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    It might simply be that they're finished taking it apart and studying it and continuing to hold on to it provided no benefit.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      It might simply be that they're finished taking it apart and studying it and continuing to hold on to it provided no benefit.
      Plus, I think there's an element of "in your face" when they give it back and it's obviously been dissected.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        And now our dear President-elect tweets: "We should tell China that we don't want the drone they stole back. - let them keep it!"
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        • #5
          Originally posted by JB DoulosChristou View Post
          And now our dear President-elect tweets: "We should tell China that we don't want the drone they stole back. - let them keep it!"


          Bless his heart.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JB DoulosChristou View Post
            And now our dear President-elect tweets: "We should tell China that we don't want the drone they stole back. - let them keep it!"
            Maybe he could do a twitter poll on it? He could govern his entire administration via twitter polls on every issue.

            But he's the best at foreign policy, and knows better than the generals on things, and so obviously doesn't need polls or advice. He can tweet his way to victory over China.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by JB DoulosChristou View Post
              And now our dear President-elect tweets: "We should tell China that we don't want the drone they stole back. - let them keep it!"
              He has a point. The Chinese have no doubt gleaned every bit of useful information from it that they can, so the damage has already been done.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                [SIZE=4][*]China is promising to return the drone - but I'm guessing they're examining, and possibly reverse engineering it as we speak.
                why bother? It was probably "Made in China" to begin with.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  why bother? It was probably "Made in China" to begin with.
                  I doubt it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the downloaded the plans.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JB DoulosChristou View Post
                    And now our dear President-elect tweets: "We should tell China that we don't want the drone they stole back. - let them keep it!"
                    And that was soley what all the news was focused on all day Sunday. "What did he mean?" and trying to find some way to make it sound like he was being treasonous or anti-american.

                    It is like he is just toying with the press, making these silly tweets just to see them jump and start a new news cycle at the sound of a tweet.

                    "Hey Pence! Hold my beer and watch this! **tweet**"

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