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    Quote Originally Posted by hansgeorg View Post
    I am not very familiar with how tarot readers do, but I think there is a fairly clear instruction in that chapter.
    You missed the anti-Christ by several years, my friend.

    Ronald = 6
    Wilson = 6
    Reagan = 6

    See: http://americanvision.org/3670/the-antichrist-hoax/
    Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
    You missed the anti-Christ by several years, my friend.

    Ronald = 6
    Wilson = 6
    Reagan = 6

    See: http://americanvision.org/3670/the-antichrist-hoax/
    I don't think so.

    He was born in the family Reagan, a family name with six letters.

    In these cases certain parents, like his, whether from massonic flirting with 666 or from Jewish superstition about 18 will give their children, especially male ones, two first names with six letters each.

    This is also the case with the man who developed the bar code.

    If a man who fulfilled that criterium of name could simply therefore be meant, that would make parents able to chose the names to make their sons Antichrist - or candidates.

    I think that precisely ASCII Code and precisely in the generation which was born before it was invented is the main clue - because that way the parents could not know what they were fulfilling.

    On the "Ronald Wilson Reagan" theorem (and in certain families also by Greek alphabet or Hebrew alphabet gematria) parents would be able to put a hex on their children by the choice of names.
    http://notontimsblogroundhere.blogspot.fr/p/apologetics-section.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
    1) Antichrist is not a single person. That is, “antichrist” is a descriptive term for a group, or a type of person, not a title for a special single person. John had no intention of describing a single world ruler who would come and fill some prophesied role of “the” Antichrist.
    Actually, that is false and does not follow from the verse.

    What Tradition means by "The Antichrist" and what St John means in that verse (checking:1 John 2:18) by the use of the plural form is not the exact same concept.

    There is one Antichrist who will be thrown alive into the lake of fire, and he is one of the many Antichrists. So is The False Prophet who will be doing him company.

    I do not think that Leo Tolstoy was The Antichrist. But I think that Pobodonoststev ("procurator of the Holy Synod" in Czarist clergy) was perfectly right to call him "a heretic and an antichrist" as in one of the many, though not necessarily one of those two.

    The Biblical term is not "The Antichrist" so much as The Beast or The Man of Sin (though that could also refer to The False Prophet).

    2) These antichrists came and went during the time John wrote. We are not awaiting their appearance in our near future. “And now,” “Even now,” or “So now,” these many antichrists “have come,” said John. Their appearance on the scene was a done deal.
    The small antichrists were not done with when St John went to his glory.

    They were around in his time, a little later there were others, like the Persian Mani, yet later further others, like Arius, and perhaps also Nestorius (it is also possible Nestorius was only so for a while but repented, but let's us say Nestorius as judgeable by what he had done up to Council of Ephesus, not Nestorius as he was perhaps redeemed after it), later still there were six in the upshot around 1517, amounting to four wellsprings of diverse Protestant sects:

    1) Martin Luther, 2) Huldrich Zwingli and 3) John Oecolampad, 4) Thomas Müntzer and the two Sozzini, 5) Lelio with his nephew 6) Fausto.

    Later still you have Voltaire, but before him you have Reverend Anderson, 1717.

    Later still you have Roncalli, Montini and Wojtyla.

    All these small antichrists lead up to the final couple, though Dimond Brothers thinks Wojtyla has already fulfilled part of what traditionally is thought of The Antichrist, in Assisi 1986 and by the assassination attempt which failed. And though Pope Michael thinks Montini was it, by changing the Liturgy.

    Even as late as this, there are more options than Bergoglio and Putin, though these are my main suspects. There may be a kind of "highlander syndrome" ("in the end only one is left" ... er, only two are left) about it.

    But going by ASCII Code and known persons, there are not that many. Some few more. And I have been calculating ASCII Code values on names for a few years by now, since Bergoglio struck me as suspect. If it were very common to get that number by ASCII Code, I would be aware by now. It is not.
    http://notontimsblogroundhere.blogspot.fr/p/apologetics-section.html

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    3) John, inspired by the Holy Spirit, writing in Scripture, interpreted the manifestation of these antichrists as proof he and his audience were living in the “last hour” or “end time.” Unless the “last hour” has lasted for nearly two thousand years (a large percentage of human history for a waning hour), then we can safely say that the “end time” somehow pertained to John’s era, not ours. This should force some hard thinking about the doctrine of the last days, at least for some people.
    The last hour precisely HAS lasted for 2000 years, nearly. Christ came in the fulness of time, then from Apostolic times to Doomsday is "the last hour", in which a full manifestation of the final Antichrist is only possible after the great apostasy. Something which some of us identify with things like Vatican II and Assisi 1986.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hansgeorg View Post
    Not exactly.

    I am saying that fantasy writers have been given us because they have some kind of insight into apocalyptic things.

    If you analyse Silmarillion and especially Akallabęth, you will find that Morgoth corresponds pretty well to Satan, which would leave Sauron as the demon Abaddon, who is also probably the demon who will be possessing Antichrist.

    That said, I don't think either Tolkien or Rowling were sufficiently bad to be well acquainted with the Antichrist as such. I am noting this as a side confirmation on the use of ASCII Code as to Apocalypse 13:18.
    ASCII code did not even exist when Tolkien wrote his books. It did not exist when Revelation was written. Why would it be relevant to anything? Why would Tolkien's books be relevant? Yes he was a Christian and he did have Christian themes in his books, and he probably did base some of his characters on Satan or demons, like the orcs who are fallen elves (angels). But it is fantasy. Not prophesy. And it would have zero to do with ASCII. You are merely shoehorning your ideas into the text with a sledgehammer. This is known as eisegesis.

    Eisegesis (/ˌaɪsəˈdʒiːsəs/; from the Greek preposition εἰς "into" and the ending from the English word exegesis, Greek ἐξήγησις, which in turn is derived from ἐξηγεῖσθαι "to lead out") is the process of interpreting a text or portion of text in such a way that the process introduces one's own presuppositions, agendas, or biases into and onto the text. This is commonly referred to as reading into the text. The act is often used to "prove" a pre-held point of concern to the reader and to provide him or her with confirmation bias in accordance with his or her pre-held agenda. Eisegesis is best understood when contrasted with exegesis. While exegesis is the process of drawing out the meaning from a text in accordance with the context and discoverable meaning of its author, eisegesis occurs when a reader imposes his or her interpretation into and onto the text. As a result, exegesis tends to be objective when employed effectively while eisegesis is regarded as highly subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hansgeorg View Post
    As computer expert, you should know that adding either a space or making an upper case lower case does add 32. Meaning that in precisely ASCII Code, the path is fairly direct from 474 to 666.
    But you are just fiddling with numbers and letters and punctuation till you come up with a code or method that matches your already decided conclusion.

    I just made up a code that proves you are the anti-christ. It uses Pirate Code (invented by me!)

    h = 600
    a = 60
    n = 6
    s = nothing. zero. nada.
    Total: 666 in decimal.

    Therefore you are the antichrist. I have proven it! Repent, demon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansgeorg View Post
    I don't think so.
    He was born in the family Reagan, a family name with six letters.
    If a man who fulfilled that criterium of name could simply therefore be meant, that would make parents able to chose the names to make their sons Antichrist - or candidates.
    On the "Ronald Wilson Reagan" theorem (and in certain families also by Greek alphabet or Hebrew alphabet gematria) parents would be able to put a hex on their children by the choice of names.
    You're excluding Reagan for entirely subjective reasons.
    You claim he couldn't be it because the naming of the child would be intentional when it is just as likely a fulfillment of prophecy. (1)

    You don't have a reason to exclude him other than 'it doesn't fit my preconceived model'.

    This is what numerologist do - they look through thousands of combinations of numbers to get to the magical '666' and exclude any totals that don't match their preset agenda. The possibilities of getting to that number take the most convoluted and ridiculous routes.

    See the example on Visa here: http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...des/words.html

    Your initial post where you substitute out a 'S' for a 's' and a 'u' out for a 'w' is an embarrassment.
    Tying it all to ASCII is flat out silly - this ranks as one of the saddest attempts at numerology I've seen in quite some time.
    It isn't clever, it isn't creative, it is silly.









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    1: Both claims are idiotic.
    Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansgeorg View Post
    The last hour precisely HAS lasted for 2000 years, nearly. Christ came in the fulness of time, then from Apostolic times to Doomsday is "the last hour", in which a full manifestation of the final Antichrist is only possible after the great apostasy. Something which some of us identify with things like Vatican II and Assisi 1986.
    John was speaking of present circumstances as indicated by the text.
    Your argument is with him - to extend an last hour to '2000' years is silly.

    I'm sorry, but you don't get to redefine words and the clear meaning of the text.

    John was writing to comfort a persecuted church.
    One has to wonder what comfort they'd find in a hidden code that couldn't be deciphered until ASCII was developed.
    Stop being silly.
    Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    But you are just fiddling with numbers and letters and punctuation till you come up with a code or method that matches your already decided conclusion.

    I just made up a code that proves you are the anti-christ. It uses Pirate Code (invented by me!)

    h = 600
    a = 60
    n = 6
    s = nothing. zero. nada.
    Total: 666 in decimal.

    Therefore you are the antichrist. I have proven it! Repent, demon!
    Problem with that code : you just made it up.

    I am not making ASCII Code up. Upper case A is 64+1=65. Lower case a is 64+32+1. Either you say it is 97 or you say it is 65+32. In every computer using Latin alphabet over the world.

    DEC OCT HEX BIN Symbol HTML Number HTML Name Description
    32 040 20 00100000 & # 32 ; Space
    ...
    65 101 41 01000001 A & # 65 ; Uppercase A
    ...
    97 141 61 01100001 a a Lowercase a

    http://www.ascii-code.com/
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    Persecuted Believer 1: "According the Apostle John the mark of the Beast is 666'.
    Persecuted Believer 2: "I wish my arms weren't chained to this wall so I could develop computers and ASCII code".
    Persecuted Believer 1: "You have a full hour, get on it."
    Persecuted Believer 2: "When the guard said we'd be executed in an hour he meant 60 minutes, not 2,000 years."
    Persecuted Believer 1: "Oh, yeah, I keep getting those confused.
    Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

  12. Amen JB DoulosChristou, Chrawnus amen'd this post.

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