Prepubescent "Transgender Activist"

[Jaecp]

A good term for people who reject the fact that "male" and "female" are designations based on a generalization of a myriad of processes that involve, in aggregate, gene expression, hormones, and neurology which can result, in a small percentage of human beings, mixed expressions of characteristics that result in anguish that may only be resolved through integration into society as an individual's preferred identity.

Well put. This is shorter than how I usually describe that so I may need to steal it ;-)

[Darth Executor]

A good term for people who reject the fact that "male" and "female" are designations based on a generalization of a myriad of processes that involve, in aggregate, gene expression, hormones, and neurology which can result, in a small percentage of human beings, mixed expressions of characteristics that result in anguish that may only be resolved through integration into society as an individual's preferred identity.

They're obviously not resolved at all given that the majority of the population is repulsed by it. You "solve" (not really) a problem that affects an infinitesimal minority by making it everybody's problem, and then complaining about the solution.

[JimL]

They're obviously not resolved at all given that the majority of the population is repulsed by it. You "solve" (not really) a problem that affects an infinitesimal minority by making it everybody's problem, and then complaining about the solution.

The data refutes your subjective opinion concerning the additudes of the majority. According to a Pew Research poll, the great majority of Americans, including a majority of Christians believe homosexuality should be accepted.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...homosexuality/

So, since you, being that you're homophobic, are in the minority, we should stop trying to solve your problem by making it everybody's problem.

[Darth Ovious]

[Bisto]

Oh, spare me the faux indignation Jaecp. My "moral outrage" was and is absolutely justified. The things you two were proposing are monstrously horrifying. Children are our most precious and innocent treasures, and people who support infanticide, pedophiles, and now naked show-and-tells are screwed in the head. I don't know what the hell is wrong with you, but by defending this creep, you're just as bad as he is. If it were up to me, both you two would have been kicked off the forum a long time ago.

I see at least one reason Sparko didn't Amen this post.

[Darth Ovious]

Its not necessarily as simplistic as you would like to believe. Chromosones don't necessarily tell the whole story. The brain can differ from the physical nature of the body, male or female, that it occupies.

Whatever is held in the mind is subjective though and by definition cannot be used to determine reality.

[Littlejoe]

Its not necessarily as simplistic as you would like to believe. Chromosones don't necessarily tell the whole story. The brain can differ from the physical nature of the body, male or female, that it occupies.

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The brain can also "lie" to itself...for instance, I have a cousin who firmly and TRULY believes her brother is a hit man for the Mafia...(he's an IT manager at a large insurance company), she also believes that people in her apartment complex sneak into her apartment from the ceiling of her ground floor apt. and poison her food... (Yes she is under a Doctors care). Her brain telling her so, doesn't make it real. The brain telling a person they are the wrong gender, while they may firmly believe it, also does not make it reality. JS

[JimL]

Whatever is held in the mind is subjective though and by definition cannot be used to determine reality.

Wrong. Its only subjective if it exists only in the mind.

[JimL]

The brain can also "lie" to itself...for instance, I have a cousin who firmly and TRULY believes her brother is a hit man for the Mafia...(he's an IT manager at a large insurance company), she also believes that people in her apartment complex sneak into her apartment from the ceiling of her ground floor apt. and poison her food... (Yes she is under a Doctors care). Her brain telling her so, doesn't make it real. The brain telling a person they are the wrong gender, while they may firmly believe it, also does not make it reality. JS

It isn't about what the brain, or in other words what you, are telling yourself, its what the brain, or in other words, what you, are. There is a difference in the biology of male and female brains and the brains of male children with dysphoria are biologically more akin to the female brain in its makeup and function. You're cousin is schizophrenic, and thats not her fault either, but it has nothing to do with dysphoria.

[Psychic Missile]

They're obviously not resolved at all given that the majority of the population is repulsed by it. You "solve" (not really) a problem that affects an infinitesimal minority by making it everybody's problem, and then complaining about the solution.

You're advocating for the tyranny of the majority. It doesn't matter if a bunch of whiny babies have a hissy fit, it matters that some people have a medical condition that needs addressing according to modern science.

[Psychic Missile]

The brain can also "lie" to itself...for instance, I have a cousin who firmly and TRULY believes her brother is a hit man for the Mafia...(he's an IT manager at a large insurance company), she also believes that people in her apartment complex sneak into her apartment from the ceiling of her ground floor apt. and poison her food... (Yes she is under a Doctors care). Her brain telling her so, doesn't make it real. The brain telling a person they are the wrong gender, while they may firmly believe it, also does not make it reality. JS

How should we determine whether a person's beliefs are true or false?

[Darth Executor]

You're advocating for the tyranny of the majority. It doesn't matter if a bunch of whiny babies have a hissy fit, it matters that some people have a medical condition that needs addressing according to modern science.

You're advocating for the tyranny of the statistical rounding error (IE: actual tyranny).

[Sparko]

How should we determine whether a person's beliefs are true or false?

look between their legs.

[Bill the Cat]

It isn't about what the brain, or in other words what you, are telling yourself, its what the brain, or in other words, what you, are. There is a difference in the biology of male and female brains and the brains of male children with dysphoria are biologically more akin to the female brain in its makeup and function. You're cousin is schizophrenic, and thats not her fault either, but it has nothing to do with dysphoria.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/...nt-study-finds

The majority of the brains were a mosaic of male and female structures, the team reports online today in the*Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Depending on whether the researchers looked at gray matter, white matter, or the diffusion tensor imaging data, between 23% and 53% of brains contained a mix of regions that fell on the male-end and female-end of the spectrum. Very few of the brains—between 0% and 8%—contained all male or all female structures. “There is no one type of male brain or female brain,” Joel says.

[Psychic Missile]

You're advocating for the tyranny of the statistical rounding error (IE: actual tyranny).

Yes, the tyranny of doctors following best practices and people using bathrooms. How horrible.