Is God's name YHWH, Jehovah, Jesus or Christ?

[IncRus]

In the New World Transation version of John 17:11-12 we hear Jesus pray to the Father, "Also. I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world and I am coming to you. Holy Father, watch over them on account of your own name which you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are. When I was with them I used to watch over them on account of your own name which you have given me; and I have kept them, and not one of them is destroyed except the son of destruction, in order that the scripture might be fulfilled."

In the Today's English Version of John 17:11 and 12, Jesus prayed to the Father, and we read: "And now I am coming to you; I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world. Holy Father! Keep them safe by the power of your name the name you gave me, so that they may be one just as you and I are one. While I was with them, I kept them safe by the power of your name, the name you gave me. I protected them and not one of them was lost, except the one who is bound to be lost - so that the scripture might come true."

Consider the following:

1. JESUS is the name of the child that was born to Mary (Matt. 1:21);
2. JESUS is the man whom the Jews crucified whom God MADE both Lord and CHRIST (Acts 2:36);
3. JESUS is the man (Phil. 2:8) whom God exalted and GIVEN a name which is above every name (Phil. 2:9).
4. JESUS is the man (John 8:40) who was praying to the Father (John 17:1) who said, "...keep them safe by the power of YOUR name, the name YOU gave ME", referring to himself - JESUS (John 17:11).

While it is true, as some say, that it was the "anointed" one who was named JESUS, it was JESUS, the "anointed," who was crucified and GIVEN a name which is above every name. And it was JESUS, the "anointed" who was MADE both Lord and Christ. And the name that was GIVEN to JESUS by God is God's OWN name as JESUS himself prays in John 17:11-12.

IF God's name in the Christian era were YHWH or JEHOVAH and this was God's NAME that God GAVE to Jesus, the apostles would have said so and would have called JESUS "Jehovah" or "YHWH."

But the apostles NEVER called Jesus "Jehovah." Neither did the apostles call JESUS "YHWH."

On the contrary, apostle Peter said that "God MADE this JESUS whom the Jews crucified both Lord and CHRIST" (Acts 2:36). And the apostles referred to JESUS as "Jesus", "Jesus Christ", "Christ Jesus" or simply "Christ."

Therefore, the fact that CHRIST also means "anointed" or "messiah" does not negate the truth that CHRIST is the NAME of God that God GAVE to JESUS, because God MADE Jesus - CHRIST. There is no other way to read what JESUS prayed to the Father in John 17:11-12.

[ברכיה בן ישׂראל]

Therefore, the fact that CHRIST also means "anointed" or "messiah" does not negate the truth that CHRIST is the NAME of God that God GAVE to JESUS, because God MADE Jesus - CHRIST. There is no other way to read what JESUS prayed to the Father in John 17:11-12.

As to my understanding, It also does not negate the fact that "Moshiach" is a title and not a name. Also for those who are not in the know, Miriam never ever called Yahshua jesus. The helenized Greeko Roman version of the name which was translated a few times and ended up as we see this poor English translation of a persons name. "Yah" means "Existence" and "Shua" means "Salvation" therefore we have "Yah is Salvation". Who? Yah! That is the Fathers name which was given to many Hebrew Yisraelites within there names but it just so happened that the Malach that spoke unto Miriam when speaking on her giving birth said that to call child Yahshua. By no other name will men be saved.

[Sparko]

incrus, don't you find that the fact that Jesus has the same name as God even a bit significant?

[ברכיה בן ישׂראל]

As to my understanding, It also does not negate the fact that "Moshiach" is a title and not a name. Also for those who are not in the know, Miriam never ever called Yahshua jesus. The helenized Greeko Roman version of the name which was translated a few times and ended up as we see this poor English translation of a persons name. "Yah" means "Existence" and "Shua" means "Salvation" therefore we have "Yah is Salvation". Who? Yah! That is the Fathers name which was given to many Hebrew Yisraelites within there names but it just so happened that the Malach that spoke unto Miriam when speaking on her giving birth said that to call child Yahshua. By no other name will men be saved.

Oh, and just to add, we see that the correct pronunciation of the name of Yahshua is so shown in Strong's, even though as to my understanding the spelling is deceiving.

H3442
ישׁוּע
yêshûa‛
yah-shoo'-ah
For H3091; he will save; Jeshua, the name of two Israelites, also of a place in Palestine: - Jeshua.

[WillofGod72]

I'm rather surprised that so many people fail to recognize the fact that the "name" of God is His character, His essence, His meaning.

In society, we are named by our parents based on a variety of factors, but mainly for the purpose of identifying us from everyone else.

Biblical names describe a persons character or tells you at least something about who they were as a person. For this reason, it seems that names were chosen after someone had established their character.

Because 'names of gods' were used so extensively among ancient cults (as they seem to be today as well) to cast spells and such,

God was never interested in placing a name as an identifier upon Himself, preferring this to remain quite ambiguous. And if you think about it, what purpose would there be for God to have to identify Himself by name?

[fm93]

You still don't understand Wisdom theology, do you?

[OneSizeFit]

The irony of this thread is beyond me...

1. I AM or I AM BECOMING was God establishing his sovereignty, to be translated as don't worry about it and/or bettter yet, I AM everything, I WAS everything, I WILL be everything. Do not assign attributes, names, or anything else to I. YHWH is not a literal name (if it was why would Kabbahlists still be trying to figure it out...)

2. Jesus was the TRUTH, he never referred to the Supreme as YHWH, thus neither will I. Abba = Dad. God is our parent...dont worry about his name (how many of us call our mom or dad by their first name?) - and Sparko,

3. Jesus. in 1AD Palestine, was the equivalent of being named Mike in modern times, so Jesus as we understand it is not God's name either.

God is not a name. Peace.

[ברכיה בן ישׂראל]

Oh, and just to add, we see that the correct pronunciation of the name of Yahshua is so shown in Strong's, even though as to my understanding the spelling is deceiving.

H3442
ישׁוּע
yêshûa‛
yah-shoo'-ah
For H3091; he will save; Jeshua, the name of two Israelites, also of a place in Palestine: - Jeshua.

Furthermore, we see that Yah wanted us to remember Him by His name from generation after generation.

Exo 3:14 Elohim said to Moshe, "Well, I am so I Exist," and He said, "You shall tell the children of Yisra'el this: ‘I Yah has sent me to you.'"
Exo 3:15 Elohim said further to Moshe, "Say this to the people of Yisra'el: ‘The Existence Giver, the El of your fathers, the El of Avraham, the El of Yitz'chak and the El of Ya'akov, has sent me to you.' This is my name forever; this is how I am to be remembered generation after generation.

Yes, Yah is His name that He so gave unto Moshe and it means “Existence” and He commanded everyone that this is His name and that it is how He is to be remembered generation after generation.

[IncRus]

Furthermore, we see that Yah wanted us to remember Him by His name from generation after generation.

Exo 3:14 Elohim said to Moshe, "Well, I am so I Exist," and He said, "You shall tell the children of Yisra'el this: ‘I Yah has sent me to you.'"
Exo 3:15 Elohim said further to Moshe, "Say this to the people of Yisra'el: ‘The Existence Giver, the El of your fathers, the El of Avraham, the El of Yitz'chak and the El of Ya'akov, has sent me to you.' This is my name forever; this is how I am to be remembered generation after generation.

Yes, Yah is His name that He so gave unto Moshe and it means “Existence” and He commanded everyone that this is His name and that it is how He is to be remembered generation after generation.

The above-cited verses refer to the NAME which God wanted the "people and children of Israel" to remember "from generation to generation," referring to the generations of Israel.

The name in question is the NAME of God which God GAVE to Jesus such as we can read in John 17:11-12 and Phil. 2:9. What is that NAME? Was Jesus called by that NAME?

[IncRus]

The irony of this thread is beyond me...

1. I AM or I AM BECOMING was God establishing his sovereignty, to be translated as don't worry about it and/or bettter yet, I AM everything, I WAS everything, I WILL be everything. Do not assign attributes, names, or anything else to I. YHWH is not a literal name (if it was why would Kabbahlists still be trying to figure it out...)

2. Jesus was the TRUTH, he never referred to the Supreme as YHWH, thus neither will I. Abba = Dad. God is our parent...dont worry about his name (how many of us call our mom or dad by their first name?) - and Sparko,

3. Jesus. in 1AD Palestine, was the equivalent of being named Mike in modern times, so Jesus as we understand it is not God's name either.

God is not a name. Peace.

If you don't know the NAME of God which God GAVE to Jesus (John 17:11-12; Phil. 2:9), how can God safeguard you by His NAME as prayed for by Jesus in John 17:11-12?

[ברכיה בן ישׂראל]

The above-cited verses refer to the NAME which God wanted the "people and children of Israel" to remember "from generation to generation," referring to the generations of Israel.

Which Yisrael are those so chosen to teach the world the word of Yah which would also include His name. And yes, "from generation to generation".

The name in question is the NAME of God which God GAVE to Jesus such as we can read in John 17:11-12 and Phil. 2:9. What is that NAME? Was Jesus called by that NAME?

We believe that Yah's name is within the name of "Yahshua" which means "Yah is salvation".

[OneSizeFit]

If you don't know the NAME of God which God GAVE to Jesus (John 17:11-12; Phil. 2:9), how can God safeguard you by His NAME as prayed for by Jesus in John 17:11-12?

So that would be Son I assume?

[Nemo]

In the oldest translations of the Bible , the name YHWH pops up, i though it was accepted as Jehovah?..i dont think (please feel free to prove me wrong) it is ever said to represent another translation?.
I struggle with this though....If Jesus IS God...why is he constantly talking to himself....why does he bother giving praise to himself when doing everything?.....And why would he in Gethsemane ask himself not to go through with his death?