FBI, DHS release report on Russia hacking

[Bill the Cat]

The national presidential polls were actually more accurate in 2016 than they were in 2012.

But they were still off by a good enough margin to pick the wrong winner.

[Mountain Man]

Why, would it matter to you? Actually I was wrong, it is possible to actually win with only 27% of the popular vote in one scenario, and only 23% in another.
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112...nt-of-the-vote

That's what I thought, it's possible in theory but impossible in any practical sense. Hardly the "distinct possibility" you claimed it was.

[robrecht]

But they were still off by a good enough margin to pick the wrong winner.

Of course. I was just pointing out that the degree of inaccuracy in polling need not be understood as a more recent phenomenon.

[Mountain Man]

In polls? We've seen those polls be routinely proven false for about 3 years now. All of the polling people are re-evaluating their methodologies for a reason.

At least they're claiming to be reevaluating their methodologies. A lot of the polls were intentionally skewed in Hillary's favor in a deliberate effort to discourage Trump supporters.

[Darth Ovious]

At least they're claiming to be reevaluating their methodologies. A lot of the polls were intentionally skewed in Hillary's favor in a deliberate effort to discourage Trump supporters.

Stupid if you ask me because it probably encouraged Hillary supporters to not bother to go out and vote because they thought they would win easily.

[Darth Ovious]

Here we go.

MSNBC showing how badly their prediction was.

[rogue06]

Stupid if you ask me because it probably encouraged Hillary supporters to not bother to go out and vote because they thought they would win easily.

Only if it looks like a landslide otherwise a lot of folks want to be on the winning side.